Message from sean g in NEWS and POLITICS #climate-debate

2019-05-03 15:32:07 UTC  

Power is the ability to impose your will upon nature.

2019-05-03 15:32:11 UTC  

Not have nature impose her will over you

2019-05-03 15:32:57 UTC  


2019-05-03 16:03:44 UTC  

I think it’s been adequately demonstrated that people with the power to effect policy care more about their personal interests than anything else. The only options are to make them care about the environment - which is not within our power - or deprive them the ability to dictate policy.

2019-05-03 16:03:57 UTC  


2019-05-03 16:03:58 UTC  

that's obvious

2019-05-03 16:04:04 UTC  

Since they are easily able to hide their motives (and even their actions) by outright secrecy or by framing their actions in a misleading way, there is no way to assure that the wrong people do not gain the ability to dictate policy, leaving us with only one viable option - have *no one* dictating policy in the broad scope. Then individual groups may seek out environmental misdeeds, prove them, and act by boycott or direct action to stop them without being roadblocked by enforcement of policies that favor the transgressor.

2019-05-03 16:04:19 UTC  

If you follow the money behind Democrat Politicians, the solar company and wind pay very well with their pockets

2019-05-03 16:04:34 UTC  

cant blame republicans if they want to go solar and wind if the companies are pocketing them as well

2019-05-03 16:05:32 UTC  

I don’t understand the last statement.

2019-05-03 16:42:49 UTC  

Republicans will support solar and wind power

2019-05-03 16:42:53 UTC  

if companies will pay them

2019-05-03 16:42:55 UTC  

but they dont

2019-05-03 16:43:05 UTC  

because it's more expensive to pay a republican on something against their constituent's beliefs than a democrat

2019-05-03 16:43:20 UTC  

unless you ever have a republican incumbent politician in a democrat state

2019-05-03 16:43:27 UTC  

then you might see that republican being a little more democrat

2019-05-03 20:33:27 UTC  

Gotcha. Well, this is what happens when we try to abdicate personal responsibility. We don’t want to deal with the problems of our world ourselves, so we make it somebody else’s job; and the power implicit in that job doesn’t draw people who want to help humanity, it draws people who want to wield that power for personal benefit.

2019-05-03 20:33:30 UTC  

If it benefits them more to harm humanity, then that’s what they’ll do. That will *always* be the case, and thus by making voting our only act of influence, we’ve made ourselves impotent in effecting the change *we* want to see, and unwitting power supplies for the agendas of unscrupulous misanthropes.

2019-05-04 10:51:48 UTC  

"Bottled Water Ban" - Should Bottled Water Be Banned?

2019-05-04 11:11:20 UTC  

No, especially when you can reuse those bottles

2019-05-04 20:04:49 UTC  

Solar radiation managment is a scam for $ and to keep solar from taking over

2019-05-06 12:38:39 UTC  

@beyond_gravity Are you asking if people have the right to use violence against others for drinking bottled water? Wow. And we call these ideas “solutions”?

2019-05-07 00:17:23 UTC  

I think the best way to help the climate is to 1) tax oil companies. they have known the harmful effects of oil long before anyone else knew but didnt care, they should pay for the damages they cause yearly. 2) stop subsidizing animal agriculture. the leading cause of climate change and arguably the hardest to fight. 3) ban single use plastic or make it cost something, take away its convenience, 4) use sustainable farming practices. No more monofarming and gmo's that exist only to take on more chemicals. 5) encourage biking over driving. Maybe do a tax cut to people that biked more or for people that get rid of their car or make bikes the more convenient objects to use on the roads. 6) stop fast fashion.

2019-05-07 00:18:08 UTC  

but arguably the best thing anyone any single person can do is 1 very simple easy thing

2019-05-07 00:18:49 UTC  

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2019-05-07 00:19:13 UTC  

to reduce their consumerism.

2019-05-07 00:20:25 UTC  

aka reduce their meat consumption, reduce the amount of clothing they purchase, reduce the amount of plastic they purchase including plastic wrapped items, reduce the amount of energy they use cooling or heating their house, etc.

2019-05-07 00:48:04 UTC  


2019-05-07 00:48:23 UTC  

What science tells human to do is not hit our maximum potential

2019-05-07 00:48:28 UTC  

But limit ourselves instead

2019-05-07 00:48:55 UTC  

Perhaps Nietzsche was right, science is just a religion

2019-05-07 00:49:05 UTC  

After all it limits us

2019-05-07 01:20:50 UTC  

@Techpriest everything has a limit

2019-05-07 01:21:16 UTC  

some limits are short and easy to see others are long and even not possible to see in your lifespan

2019-05-07 01:21:41 UTC  

Just like my DIK

2019-05-07 01:21:48 UTC  

damn dude

2019-05-07 01:21:54 UTC  

on the short side or the long side tho 🤔

2019-05-07 01:22:11 UTC  

U know it long

2019-05-07 01:22:20 UTC  


2019-05-07 01:51:27 UTC  

Which is why you push to the limit

2019-05-07 01:51:32 UTC  

Not let the limit limit you