Message from @fuck12moredeadcops

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2019-10-07 17:19:20 UTC  

But obviously if you have a 10% alleviation in rent it lowers housing costs

2019-10-07 17:19:26 UTC  

So?

2019-10-07 17:19:42 UTC  

If you are alleviating for some you are alleviating for all

2019-10-07 17:19:56 UTC  

So this number is absolutely flawed when a large chunk of the population which is habitually on the street is not counted.

2019-10-07 17:20:06 UTC  

Because the people who ARE helped are no longer taxing the system, and can provide help for the others

2019-10-07 17:20:12 UTC  

You have no data to support that claim.

2019-10-07 17:20:38 UTC  

If you disagree with official estimates, then provide alternative data

2019-10-07 17:21:12 UTC  

I don't disagree with the official estimates, I think the categories they've created don't accurately reflect the number of people without places to stay on a regular basis.

2019-10-07 17:21:14 UTC  

I don’t care about your anecdotes, come play with data

2019-10-07 17:21:16 UTC  

And it doesn't

2019-10-07 17:21:44 UTC  

Ok, so obviously if you alleviate housing prices it decreases homelessness

2019-10-07 17:21:49 UTC  

I don't care about your data when it's arbitrarily decided if you have no disability, or if you've found a temporary housing situation, you don't count as chronically homeless

2019-10-07 17:21:50 UTC  

Shocked that I have to say that

2019-10-07 17:22:02 UTC  

Do you have data for how many people that is?

2019-10-07 17:22:10 UTC  

Yes, you’ve made it clear you don’t care about data

2019-10-07 17:22:23 UTC  

Just you work with some people so you feel strongly that economics doesn’t work.

2019-10-07 17:24:01 UTC  

And you misread what it says about disabilities

2019-10-07 17:25:17 UTC  

Homeless in and out of housing are consider cyclically homeless, they are not counted as transitionally homeless

2019-10-07 17:25:37 UTC  

I didn't say anything about economics not working, I just said it's unlikely to alleviate homelessness in a sufficient way, and it does nothing to directly improve the conditions homeless people are living in. Believing Warren's solution of rent reduction is sufficient when it does nothing to improve job opportunities for the unsheltered, it does nothing to ensure housing for the unsheltered, and it generally doesn't sufficiently address how you transition people out of homelessness

2019-10-07 17:27:25 UTC  

That’s a housing plan, not a homelessness plan.

2019-10-07 17:27:34 UTC  

It will certainly help people who have an income, but the strata of the homeless without incomes, are not benefitting

2019-10-07 17:27:35 UTC  

I know

2019-10-07 17:27:51 UTC  

Ok, you’re just flexing

2019-10-07 17:27:55 UTC  

Cool, I agree.

2019-10-07 17:28:11 UTC  

BUt you presented it in the context of it as a democratic candidates plans to deal with homelessness

2019-10-07 17:28:36 UTC  

To a republican

2019-10-07 17:28:54 UTC  

Not as a holistic plan to deal with homelessness

2019-10-07 17:29:04 UTC  

But the target here is salient

2019-10-07 17:30:39 UTC  

*At least it does something*

2019-10-07 17:31:03 UTC  

I'd just like to see democratic candidates address homelessness directly as opposed to discussing housing plans which tangentially may have a positive affect on the homeless.

2019-10-07 17:31:29 UTC  

Lots of people do something. The Trump Administration and state-level republicans do-something

2019-10-07 17:32:07 UTC  

But it's not addressing the problem holistically, and they're not discussing it because I don't think they're prepared to talk about the steps which need to be taken to holistically eliminate homelessness

2019-10-07 17:35:47 UTC  

Democratic care more about impeachment and welfare rather than help the homeless.

2019-10-07 17:35:57 UTC  

And we’re back

2019-10-07 17:36:22 UTC  

back again

2019-10-07 17:39:14 UTC  

Shady's back

2019-10-07 17:39:18 UTC  

Tell a friend

2019-10-07 17:40:52 UTC  

As ineffective as I find Democrats to be on homelessness, at least they suggest and implement attempts at solutions. Republicans flat out lie about wanting to implement programs, or admit they're fine with the existence of a homeless population in the wealthiest country on the planet @!GoldenKingship!

2019-10-07 17:44:32 UTC  

I think trump is getting impeached

2019-10-07 17:44:33 UTC  

So this Kurd stuff

2019-10-07 17:44:39 UTC  

Yes probably he is