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The civil war is the greatest example of that. It wasn't just a war caused by slavery but their were other factors to consider. The south cared about its economy (dependent on slaves) and the north cared about its ideals without taking into consideration the effects it would have on the rest of the country.
Also the common good means something that benefits most members of a community (general@ public). @Deleted User ironic how you say western society but disagree with my argument on the importance of the common good over individualism. The u.s. a western society and many European societies were founded and influenced by the enlightenment that brought you these ideas such as the common good.
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I never said I want a communistic or highly collectivist society I just believe the west is becoming a little too selfish and sometimes arrogant. And your refusal to be open to your opinions and your rude behavior @The Dank Lord hurts your moral high ground. I do not hate the west in fact I live in the west. I just like to think for myself and I have my own opinions on the world that are based on reason and some analysis of history.
I just said western society is best society and left
I wasnβt disagreeing with your argument or anything hell I donβt even know what your argument is i literally said that and left
And yeah Jew Santa is rude and close minded beyond belief
Sorry @Deleted User Its a llittle harder to understand what peoplel mean
with text we dont have tone, facial expressions and body language to better interpret what people mean
Itβs understandable
my argument earlier was against extreme individualism
basically I think too much focus on one's self leads to selfishness and problems
I tied this into the u.s. civil war
The us civil war was about slavery
where both sides focused on their own goals instead of national unity and considering thein interests of their neighbors
Nothing else like leftists will try to make you believe
Yes the civil war was about slavery but other factors played a role
No just the need for slavery
Again sometimes the left is right.
Iβm not saying the left is always wrong
im not saying you are
also the reason why the south sllavery was economics
they made them money
True
some of it was ideological
but as i stated earllier
the north was cocenred about their morality and the south their money and some thought slavery was moralll
neither seemed to be making good efforts to compromise because of their sectionalist desires
Before we continue I would like to apologize for you dealing with Jew Santa heis offaly rude in debates
this lead to chaos and death
Unfortunate for him
I admire his willingness to be strong in his beliefs but their must be a balance here
Everything you said is somewhat or entirely true
Yeah again im not anti-individualism
I think we might have too much and I think peoplle shoulldl consider others
if everyone in the world focused on themselves we may have more wars
because peoplel put themselves over maybe considering the situation of others and working out a way for their to be peace
Of course we should look beyond ourselves to help humanity
im glad we agree on something π
Iβm glad this debate is civil