Message from @!.MESSIEH

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2020-02-18 23:36:35 UTC  

Like this, @Yusa.

2020-02-18 23:36:40 UTC  

Ok

2020-02-18 23:36:47 UTC  

It all has to be that short?

2020-02-18 23:37:04 UTC  

Well, anyways.

2020-02-18 23:38:14 UTC  

@Cobra Commander That experiment doesn't prove anything about life coming from non-life

2020-02-18 23:38:39 UTC  

I genuinely don't see how you aren't getting my point

2020-02-18 23:39:10 UTC  

TLDR knowing why life exists is irrelevant

2020-02-18 23:39:41 UTC  

ultimately true

2020-02-18 23:40:01 UTC  

Wrong, it's everything.

2020-02-18 23:40:10 UTC  

Do you really want me to argue that?

2020-02-18 23:41:28 UTC  

Knowing why life exists is everything

2020-02-18 23:42:16 UTC  

I'm still horrified that Yusa lives in a world where bacteria are running around the size of rats and stuff

2020-02-18 23:42:37 UTC  

An actual nightmare

2020-02-18 23:43:37 UTC  

@Yusa Mee6 deleted my dick because it was too long aswell

2020-02-18 23:43:57 UTC  

Yusamac you haven't been able to explain why that matters, all you've done is asserted it.

2020-02-19 01:00:43 UTC  

@Cobra Commander Alright, so first off, the Miller-Urey experiment uses a few assumptions about earth's early atmosphere. This is very dangerous because earth's ancient atmosphere is not observable, has not been observed by anyone, and is technically not repeatable.

2020-02-19 01:01:42 UTC  

uh yes it is, ice core samples are a thing.

2020-02-19 01:02:16 UTC  

How do you know that those "ice core samples" are from when the world began

2020-02-19 01:05:17 UTC  

the ice core samples contain bubbles. In those bubbles are little samples of astmpospheres, 10, 100, 10,000, 100,000 years ago.

2020-02-19 01:05:42 UTC  

How do you know that they are that old?

2020-02-19 01:06:14 UTC  

Cause we can test them chemically

2020-02-19 01:06:15 UTC  

Radiometric dating

2020-02-19 01:06:22 UTC  

also by the depth from which they are extracted, not unlike tree rings.

2020-02-19 01:06:32 UTC  

Science dosen't lie

2020-02-19 01:07:15 UTC  

@Cobra Commander Radiometric dating is unreliable and is based off of assumptions.

2020-02-19 01:07:19 UTC  

You can also use geological history to infer what the atmosphere was like at a given time

2020-02-19 01:07:28 UTC  

"infer"

2020-02-19 01:07:41 UTC  

No it's not, and I know you're conflating carbon dating as being the entirety of radiometric dating

2020-02-19 01:09:26 UTC  

there's not one single tool or method to any of this. It's a massive collaboration requiring the hard work of scientists of multiple disciplines.

2020-02-19 01:09:48 UTC  

And if you successfully debunked any of it, you would win a Nobel Prize.

2020-02-19 01:10:25 UTC  

Yeah

2020-02-19 01:10:25 UTC  

GG @!.MESSIEH, you just advanced to level 2!

2020-02-19 01:12:23 UTC  

@Cobra Commander All of those methods are based on assumptions and scientists admit that they are not necessarily the truth. Also, people have devoted their lives to debunking it and they have debunked many of the methods used

2020-02-19 01:13:08 UTC  

not to the satisfaction of peer review.

2020-02-19 01:13:19 UTC  

Science adapts to the best standing evidence.

2020-02-19 01:15:53 UTC  

From the second sentence on wikipedia's Radioemtric Decay page: "The method compares the abundance of a naturally occurring radioactive isotope within the material to the abundance of its decay products, which form at a known constant rate of decay"

2020-02-19 01:16:31 UTC  

I don't think you have any idea about this subject if you think this is debunked.

2020-02-19 01:21:59 UTC  

Alright, so I need to go, but here are my closing arguments:

First, @Puerto Rican Nelson You are wrong. The majority of people actually believe in a God creating the universe. Imagine how much more would be convinced if we had fair media attention. There is so much evidence that evolution is statistically impossible, but we don't get a fair chance to share it.

2020-02-19 01:22:10 UTC  

No they don't

2020-02-19 01:22:22 UTC  

Most dont i whould say