Message from @TheNobody

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2018-12-04 22:15:08 UTC  

EVERYONE has challenges, just ask any group of people...

Can I discuss this with you later? I happen to be a bit pissy at the moment (nothing you did) and don't want to throw the hate hammer by accident.

For when I return, please give me your definition of "toxic masculinity."

2018-12-04 22:21:01 UTC  

@Tyberius D deal, and I truly just want to discuss I promise I won’t throw a hate hammer at you even if I strongly disagree if you do the same with me deal?

I’m probably going to log off soon, but here’s my first volley at a definition:

Toxic masculinity is where a man or men are shamed for showing emotions or desires that don’t align with what has traditionally been labeled as masculinity.

Examples, not being able to express emotions including fear, sadness or insecurity.

Preferring a sweet drink over a beer, not enjoying hunting, or violence. Taking pride in own appearance, showing vulnerability.

Boys don’t cry, anything that a man could lose a “man card” for doing

2018-12-04 22:30:11 UTC  

Sure thing, I'm already coming down.

I wouldn't argue that's toxic, just traditional. I do think men need some form of self-identity, but there are a number of things there that I don't think have to be on that list.

I guess TM doesn't effect me because I have no problem doing things I want. I'm usually pretty happy to have a reason to tell someone to shove it.

Side note, if there is TM then I think there is also a Toxic Feminity. Great example, men can sleep around but the ladies shouldn't. Either we should all be able to sleep around or should exercise restraint.

2018-12-04 22:31:42 UTC  

I agree, I’m fairly sex positive and I get almost as much flack from other females as I do males for sleeping around

2018-12-04 22:37:14 UTC  

I think many girls are that way though because society has taught us we need to be good girls, if we’re not we’re worth less, we’re sluts, worthless etc

Lots of girls want to show they aren’t by putting down others that are to show they are different

2018-12-04 22:37:40 UTC  

It used to bother me, but that when I could count my partners on one hand. After I got to a 2nd hand that attitude changed for me.

Doesn't matter much though, only ladies that like me now outweigh me.

2018-12-05 03:42:17 UTC  

*Not reading all that* but i strongly disagree 9/10 cards are agenst women when women have MORE rights and even have it easier socially

2018-12-05 04:04:57 UTC  

Tf u on about more rights

2018-12-05 12:26:26 UTC  

Have to ask that as well

2018-12-05 12:59:55 UTC  

@TheNobody what rights do we have that you don’t ?

2018-12-05 13:00:20 UTC  

vote with no draft

2018-12-05 13:00:30 UTC  

domestic abuse aid

2018-12-05 13:00:35 UTC  

gov aid

2018-12-05 13:00:42 UTC  

funding ect

2018-12-05 13:00:47 UTC  

court baise

2018-12-05 13:01:49 UTC  

"A man commits rape if—

(a) he has sexual intercourse with a woman who at the time of the intercourse does not consent to it, and
(b) at that time he knows that she does not consent to the intercourse or he is reckless as to whether she does or does not consent to it,
and references to rape in this Act and any other enactment shall be construed accordingly.

The act also restricted reference to the alleged victim's past sexual history,[45][48] and provided anonymity for both parties.[45][49] Originally, the act referred to "unlawful sexual intercourse"; the word unlawful, intended to preserve the exemption for marital rape, was deleted by the 1990 act.[50][47][51]

Section 4 of the 1990 act defines "rape under section 4" as follows:[52]

In this Act "rape under section 4" means a sexual assault that includes—

(a) penetration (however slight) of the anus or mouth by the penis, or
(b) penetration (however slight) of the vagina by any object held or manipulated by another person."

2018-12-05 13:01:54 UTC  

rape laws

2018-12-05 13:02:23 UTC  

if you read that

2018-12-05 13:02:32 UTC  

in a really long way it says only men can rape

2018-12-05 13:02:40 UTC  

I wouldn't call those rights, privileges for sure but we gents have a few of our own.

2018-12-05 13:02:51 UTC  

like what

2018-12-05 13:03:00 UTC  

also yeah idk what else other than rights to call it ty

2018-12-05 13:05:34 UTC  

There are jobs we can do that women have serious trouble with (hard labor.) We have no old stigmas slowing is down.

2018-12-05 13:06:15 UTC  

thats cus of biology tho

2018-12-05 13:06:22 UTC  

not cus someone is out to get them

2018-12-05 13:06:24 UTC  

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2018-12-05 13:15:27 UTC  

Well there hasn’t been a draft since Vietnam, and it’s largely been men fighting to keep women out of combat roles in the military.

I also think that if there was a serious epidemic of rape directed towards men, where someone was penetrating your bodies against your will as frequently as happens to females you’d be more understanding of consent laws

2018-12-05 13:25:32 UTC  

I stated the draft point eariler, but the rape laws could use a review.

2018-12-05 13:32:46 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/513098563924918273/519868741840797696/unknown.png

2018-12-05 13:33:30 UTC  

51% + of men claim to be sexual harassed by a female within a shot time after the age of 16

2018-12-05 13:33:38 UTC  

idk what % of that is rape it dosnt say

2018-12-05 13:33:58 UTC  

i talked to many females who think its ok to do that to men cus they are men

2018-12-05 13:34:19 UTC  

i know at least 1 that raped guys while they were sleeping ect

2018-12-05 13:34:39 UTC  

when i asked her about it she says "its just for fun its not real rape there guys they like it"

2018-12-05 13:35:17 UTC  

in a socity where women think its ok or like you dont think it happens, men are afraid to talk about it and the gov wont do much about it

2018-12-05 13:35:29 UTC  

dont u think its possible that means it happens a lot ?

2018-12-05 13:37:31 UTC  

What acts are we talking about exactly?

2018-12-05 13:39:30 UTC  

in public she pretends to fall and grabs there croch

2018-12-05 13:39:48 UTC  

or if she thinks there 2 young she will jsut grab it if they are alone

2018-12-05 13:40:02 UTC  

and while 1 was sleeping she gave him a hand job

2018-12-05 13:40:05 UTC  

a few times