Message from @beyond_gravity

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2018-12-11 19:32:19 UTC  

<a:REEE:406837780082065408>

2018-12-11 19:32:25 UTC  

Lol

2018-12-11 19:32:43 UTC  

***WE. ARE. NORTHERN. EUROPEAN.***

2018-12-11 19:32:53 UTC  

<a:REEE:406837780082065408>

2018-12-11 19:33:17 UTC  

otherwise, its a cool place

2018-12-11 19:33:28 UTC  

My bad northern you right

2018-12-11 19:33:34 UTC  

<:yeboi:452552734076305418>

2018-12-11 19:34:13 UTC  

tho... I do have to thank you Brits for what u did a 100 years ago

2018-12-11 19:34:17 UTC  

🙏

2018-12-11 19:34:20 UTC  

If we had to get pretty picky

2018-12-11 19:34:22 UTC  

Proper noun. Estonia (plural Estonias) A country in northeastern Europe, on the southeastern coast of the Baltic Sea.

2018-12-11 19:34:44 UTC  

So there’s eastern in there

2018-12-11 19:34:51 UTC  

<:pepe:320960583098695680>

2018-12-11 19:34:51 UTC  

*no.*

2018-12-11 19:35:06 UTC  

***NOOOO***

2018-12-11 19:35:14 UTC  

only Northern

2018-12-11 19:35:15 UTC  

Guess wiki is wrong

2018-12-11 19:35:18 UTC  

Lol

2018-12-11 19:35:18 UTC  

yes

2018-12-11 19:35:19 UTC  

Wiki gay

2018-12-11 19:35:32 UTC  

<:comfpepe:506676024654823444>

2018-12-11 19:35:39 UTC  

Bad times

2018-12-11 19:36:03 UTC  

UK is also north-western, but no one calls u that

2018-12-11 19:36:08 UTC  

we call u western

2018-12-11 19:37:09 UTC  

True dat

2018-12-11 19:37:36 UTC  

so, I think we can all I agree that we shall call Estonia as *Northern*

2018-12-11 19:40:30 UTC  

👍

2018-12-11 19:50:09 UTC  

```the system needs to properly account for environmental impacts and provide those who want to work a job which allows them to sustain themselves, it’s possible under capitalism more controls are just needed imo```

2018-12-11 19:50:33 UTC  

"the system needs to properly account for environmental impacts" that would require years of research, and alot of investment

2018-12-11 19:50:43 UTC  

and meddling in other countries politics

2018-12-11 19:50:45 UTC  

but ok

2018-12-11 19:50:57 UTC  

"and provide those who want to work a job which allows them to sustain themselves"

2018-12-11 19:51:00 UTC  

thats is also possible

2018-12-11 19:51:42 UTC  

the difference between (for example) soviet union and today is that people were forced to get a job. it is possible to get a job, so the claim that there is no way a person can get a job is BS

2018-12-11 19:51:58 UTC  

there was no such thing as a person not working in USSR

2018-12-11 19:52:36 UTC  

and I see no need for "more controls" unless when in recession

2018-12-11 19:52:46 UTC  

like F.D.R-s The new deal

2018-12-11 19:55:07 UTC  

The USSR was hardly socialist so im not going to touch that

We do have heart full employment, but real wages are frozen and have been for 50 years despite amazing economic growth.

There should be a federal jobs guarantee and everyone should be paid a living wage.

It wouldn’t take foreign involvement to say, hey factory you’re going to be charged for your pollution, for imports you could heavily tax those from countries with loose environmental regulations to penalize them for their cost cutting measures to the point their goods are more expensive than those that meet high standards

2018-12-11 20:02:05 UTC  

```We do have heart full employment, but real wages are frozen and have been for 50 years despite amazing economic growth. ``` That statement requires for us to dig further into WHY it is so. The wages of workers are influenced by many things. Main reasons are supply of workforce, demand of workforce, cost of living etc... for America those things have been pretty stable for decades. What currently keeps the wages at check is immigrants and outsourcing. America also has an aging demographiq and US industry has coped with that by... moving most of their "man-heavy" production to other countries like Mexico. and in some level, the use of immigrants is also a way. The use of developing countries will become more prevelant in coming years. I bet if you take off your shirt (or bra 😉 ) it prolly says something along the lines of "made in Bangladesh". whilst your guitar may say "Made in USA".

2018-12-11 20:05:05 UTC  

```It wouldn’t take foreign involvement to say, hey factory you’re going to be charged for your pollution, for imports you could heavily tax those from countries with loose environmental regulations to penalize them for their cost cutting measures to the point their goods are more expensive than those that meet high standards``` You would start a trade war with it, and cause an inflation (or just goods becoming too expensive to buy for people) which is either way bad for the economy. It never takes 1 country to change that. They will use other loopholes, like some US/chinese companies have do so by evading sanctions on China. They will make an shadow firm in lets say "Panama" and legally transfer it through Panama company, and evading tariffs by doing so.

2018-12-11 20:11:31 UTC  

```There should be a federal jobs guarantee and everyone should be paid a living wage.``` Thats usually used during recessions, but outside that... its too costly for the goverment and produces inflation which means that the average pay will rise, which means cost to live will rise, which means that they have to raise the pay. its an endless witch circle. Too costly.