Message from @raqdog

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2018-10-29 12:17:32 UTC  

So you are referring to socialism as equal access to education, jobs and medicine?

2018-10-29 12:17:52 UTC  

yes

2018-10-29 12:17:59 UTC  

everyone should have equal access to it

2018-10-29 12:18:21 UTC  

regardless of their income or social status, its a basic human right

2018-10-29 12:19:01 UTC  

the right to education and healthcare is a basic human right, not another means to profit off

2018-10-29 12:19:04 UTC  

Ok but what ethnic group currently out performs all others in academia?

2018-10-29 12:19:19 UTC  

why are we talking about ethnic groups here?

2018-10-29 12:19:31 UTC  

im saying equal access to education

2018-10-29 12:19:49 UTC  

Because it's important, because this group isn't given equal access because of their ethnicity

2018-10-29 12:20:15 UTC  

And they are actually thriving even more than those that are given better access because of their ethnicity

2018-10-29 12:20:32 UTC  

I still have no idea why your talking about ethnicity, I'm talking about equal access to education as a means not to profit on.

2018-10-29 12:20:55 UTC  

I'm not talking about different ethnic groups having better iq or genetically superior

2018-10-29 12:21:02 UTC  

By subsidizing people's education with tax dollars?

2018-10-29 12:21:58 UTC  

I don't really have a opinion on tax as of the moment, but yes, education should be either free or heavily subsidised because everyone has the right to it.

2018-10-29 12:22:15 UTC  

Asians are thriving in academia and they need to out perform other ethnic groups in test scores and now they need to take personality test too

2018-10-29 12:22:27 UTC  

Look

2018-10-29 12:22:36 UTC  

why are you bringing in ethnic groups?

2018-10-29 12:22:43 UTC  

do you even understand my grasp?

2018-10-29 12:22:58 UTC  

We shouldn't have to. The point is it could be divided anyway. Poor, rich

2018-10-29 12:23:01 UTC  

Black white

2018-10-29 12:23:10 UTC  

Ugly, good looking

2018-10-29 12:23:24 UTC  

It just happens to be divided by ethnicity

2018-10-29 12:23:55 UTC  

What is most uneducated group in American society?

2018-10-29 12:23:55 UTC  

your talking about division through ethnicity, I'm talking about class division here buddy.

2018-10-29 12:24:14 UTC  

Well the way you change your class is through education

2018-10-29 12:24:18 UTC  

so why did we bring in ethnic groups again?

2018-10-29 12:24:38 UTC  

@raqdog and that's why education should be universal and not be profited upon

2018-10-29 12:24:39 UTC  

Because it's a clearly demarcated group.

2018-10-29 12:25:21 UTC  

I see you mention profit again, why shouldn't someone profit off of it?

2018-10-29 12:25:32 UTC  

Someone is profiting when tax dollars are used.

2018-10-29 12:25:40 UTC  

because education is a basic human right, it should not be profited upon.

2018-10-29 12:26:09 UTC  

water and basic services are essential, would you like someone to cut corners and profit off it, at the expense of the community?

2018-10-29 12:26:23 UTC  

If anything, they profit even more, reduce their efficiency, because they are absolved of risk due to government backing, and they students will be worse off

2018-10-29 12:27:35 UTC  

how so?

2018-10-29 12:27:55 UTC  

Water isn't typically owned by the government. And when it is (read cadillac desert) it is a disaster.

2018-10-29 12:28:21 UTC  

the USSR made education compulsory and heavily subsidised for people up to 22 years old, look how many distinguished mathematicians, physicians and scientists they produced

2018-10-29 12:29:15 UTC  

If the institution needs to put perform its competitors, it will continue to improve itself. If it's told it will be subsidizing whether or not it's good at what it does or not, they are absolved of risk and absolved of needing to out perform eachother

2018-10-29 12:29:47 UTC  

Yeah but you are talking about a country that idolizes the United States

2018-10-29 12:30:50 UTC  

They collapsed during the Cold War because of communism, it did not incentivize their factories and government backed industries to do anything but pass preplanned inspections

2018-10-29 12:30:57 UTC  

why do we need to have competition in regards to education? Education isn't a business or a commodity here, it should be a human right

2018-10-29 12:31:34 UTC  

@raqdog the USSR never achieved communism, communism is the transition from socialism to a moneyless, classless and stateless society, and the USSR was none of it.