Right, you can have socialism even if there are different abilities. But it doesn't work out that well

marx nor engels nor any other socialists are egalitarians

your getting the wrong picture here

egalitarianism is doomed to fail, no one advocates for it

You are talking about equal opportunity now

equal opportunity of education and jobs

Egalitarian societies advocate equal@opportunity, not outcome

that's what I have been saying, isn't it

Socialist societies advocate equal outcome

only opportunity

You asked me if I knew what socialism is, and I said "equal outcome"

And then you said no

Or at least that's what it seemed

outcomes can never be equal, we only advocate for equality on the basis of opportunity

I think the "equal outcome" your referring to is snlt

What's snlt?

because no socialist is egalitarian or advocates for equal outcome

socially necessary labour time

So you are referring to socialism as equal access to education, jobs and medicine?

yes

everyone should have equal access to it

regardless of their income or social status, its a basic human right

the right to education and healthcare is a basic human right, not another means to profit off

Ok but what ethnic group currently out performs all others in academia?

why are we talking about ethnic groups here?

im saying equal access to education

Because it's important, because this group isn't given equal access because of their ethnicity

And they are actually thriving even more than those that are given better access because of their ethnicity

I still have no idea why your talking about ethnicity, I'm talking about equal access to education as a means not to profit on.

I'm not talking about different ethnic groups having better iq or genetically superior

By subsidizing people's education with tax dollars?

I don't really have a opinion on tax as of the moment, but yes, education should be either free or heavily subsidised because everyone has the right to it.

Asians are thriving in academia and they need to out perform other ethnic groups in test scores and now they need to take personality test too

Look

why are you bringing in ethnic groups?

do you even understand my grasp?

We shouldn't have to. The point is it could be divided anyway. Poor, rich

Black white

Ugly, good looking

It just happens to be divided by ethnicity

What is most uneducated group in American society?