so there's no need for wage labour or wages or money in general

Can we ever erradicate scarcity though. Isn't it just relative. You'd think the USA was full of people at the poverty line. But that line is always adjusting itself

Those poor people all have iPhones, clean water, flat screen TVs

eradicate scarcity? Yes, in a few centuries to thousands of years, depending on the rythhemic system of innovation. How many people in the USA are homeless, unemployed, can't afford education or healthcare again?

Lol it is not physically possible to eradicate scarcity. Do you live in an infinite universe?

What kind of bullshit is that

post scarcity is a actual theory, check it out. It's not currently possible at our present timescale of course, that's why I said centuries to thousands of years

There will always be those type of people. The US Military, only allows someone to join if they have an ASVAB score above 85

?

If your ASVAB score falls below that, not only is there no position they can use you in, but in all likelihood you would cause more problems than help

uh okay

so what does it have to do with this?

And keep in mind, this is one of the most extensive human efforts achieved to determine how to keep the ranks full

For times of war that could determine the outcome of whether the nation lives and dies

look, I don't understand why your linking irrelevant points to this.

10% of the population falls below this ASVAB score. There will always be homeless people and uneducated people, and people who we just don't know what to do with

And giving them money does not solve the issue.

socialism isn't free money, LOL

Or giving them an equal share and telling them to work for snlt does not solve it

They will actively make anything they touch worse. Actually they can be quite industrious.

But industriously stupid

how do we know that percentages if they haven't even been educated? That's why I advocate for universal free/heavily subsidised education, socialism isn't free money, and never will.

money isn't a thing in socialism anyway

You can't just educate everyone to the same status

@Leiro レイロ how well the medicine industry and education do under capitalism?

People are different in all sorts of ways, intelligence happens to be one of them

lol we have literally the most advanced facilities in the entire world

the best trained physicians

and the best universities bar non

that is why people from all over the world send their kids to study here and patients are sent here for special treatment

That's true. We have the best facilities in Nebraska where I am from

not to mention out of the top 20 most advanced hospitals literally *fifteen* are American

They send Ebola patients here all the time from across the world

@Egoy yea and so? heard of historical materialism? capitalism is in every way transitionary, that's why industrialisation can only happen effectively under capitalism.

Vampire OriToday at 8:37 AM
we have seen "how well" the education and medicine industry does in the USA under capitalism

objectively wrong

We have the Warren Buffet cancer out patient center. That's like the pinnacle of capitalism combined with medicine

they both have done very well under capitalism

once industrialised, it would begin the transition to socialism. And how many pioneers have the Soviet Union produced again, a nation almost ruined by two world wars and a civil war?

you realize historical materialism isnt an airtight theory

there are many criticisms to it