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2018-10-31 11:56:11 UTC  

Oh yeah, but they will try to stay on top for as long as possible

2018-10-31 11:56:11 UTC  

just as the Mongols and the Romans and the British gave way.

2018-10-31 11:56:28 UTC  

Yeah, being on top is what makes you weak. No reason to strive

2018-10-31 11:56:30 UTC  

@raqdog not gone be pretty when China or India is almost on par with them

2018-10-31 11:56:48 UTC  

wonder what the Union would do to preserve its place

2018-10-31 11:57:42 UTC  

Nope, they are coming. The cultures are so different. Kids in American elementary schools test somewhere around 25th or worse in math

2018-10-31 11:57:54 UTC  

Compared to other 1st world countries

2018-10-31 11:58:12 UTC  

But they score #1 in their confidence to do math

2018-10-31 11:58:40 UTC  

In China it's the exact opposite. They test much higher in ability to do math, and Lower in confidence

2018-10-31 11:59:33 UTC  

America is in it's dumbing down phase. We've got a very toxic and coddled culture.

2018-10-31 12:03:14 UTC  

if you look at individual states you'll notice it can get way more competitive. Places like california are skewing it a lot. Still needs to be fixed after so many years of neglect by democrats.

2018-10-31 12:03:55 UTC  

Gen Z is showing some hope, too. thankfully.

2018-10-31 12:20:09 UTC  

the youth is the future, as always

2018-10-31 14:21:50 UTC  

The youth is Hispanic which has a very different outlook on education

2018-10-31 14:23:45 UTC  

lol

2018-10-31 14:56:45 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/432587768682643480/507206302317936672/Screenshot_20181031-224812.jpg

2018-10-31 14:58:22 UTC  

Democracy is the will of the people

2018-10-31 14:58:29 UTC  

If the people willingly choose a dictator

2018-10-31 14:58:34 UTC  

That is democracy

2018-10-31 15:00:28 UTC  

so people collectively deciding on imposing nuclear suicide on the human race is equally democratic then

2018-10-31 15:00:54 UTC  

That is an absurd scenario, but yes.

2018-10-31 15:01:11 UTC  

If democracy is pure then whatever wins, wins.

2018-10-31 15:01:37 UTC  

It isn't like the people of Brazil don't know who Bolsonaro is

2018-10-31 15:01:43 UTC  

It is why they voted for him

2018-10-31 15:02:23 UTC  

democracy in your context could not care about outcomes.

2018-10-31 15:02:40 UTC  

again with the contextual example I used

2018-10-31 15:03:24 UTC  

That is democracy in any context.

2018-10-31 15:03:30 UTC  

It is what the definition is

2018-10-31 15:03:35 UTC  

The will of the people

2018-10-31 15:08:55 UTC  

the will of the people does not account for outcomes lol

2018-10-31 15:09:29 UTC  

but obviously, we have some ounce of rationality in our society even with uneducateds in it, so that isn't happening

2018-10-31 15:11:36 UTC  

That isn't democracy then

2018-10-31 15:11:49 UTC  

Democracy includes the uneducated

2018-10-31 15:25:36 UTC  

Pure democracy is dangerous, right? Why not let the smartest people in a Gaussian distribution make the decisions.

2018-10-31 15:26:14 UTC  

2 standard deviations above the rest only

2018-10-31 15:27:18 UTC  

IQ doesn't inherently make people decent human beings

2018-10-31 15:27:29 UTC  

That's dangerous too, but a better alternative

2018-10-31 15:29:05 UTC  

No, it doesn't. But you don't want the decision makers to be too morally inflated.

2018-10-31 15:30:07 UTC  

I dunno where to find a balance. Probably the way the US does it, we have a good balance of cold hard truth and coddling ourselves like infants

2018-10-31 15:30:54 UTC  

The US is far from a democracy

2018-10-31 15:31:40 UTC  

I never said it was