Message from @BuildTheWall
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Many people abused our welfare system by not working and staying underneath a certain salary. Some even avoid paying taxes by not reporting income.
UBI gets rid of all that.
Ideally I would want to do away with all of those
But that won’t happen because we live in a fucked up world
In Alaska you get an oil dividend.
You know what’s worth more than oil right Now?
What?
Your data. Facebook, google and amazon make billions off of you
Hmm
If you put a Value added tax on these big tech companies that already pay 0 in taxes then you divert that “dividend” back into the American pockets
Wym 0 taxes
The money would go back into the economy creating thousands of new businesses
Amazon paid 0 in taxes. The way they do it is by investing and reporting loss by putting out new stocks if I’m not mistaken
Fuck that
It’s a smart move from amazon. They’re sucking up billions of dollars from local retail stores. You can’t compete against amazon. Many malls will close.
If you had a value added tax on amazon production wether they pay 0 in annual taxes or not they would still be paying on innovation
No no no to 1k
Think about it as a “data dividend”
Just give a tax holiday if anything to the working class
why not just lower taxes lol
These tech companies aren’t going anywhere and they’re going to continue to destroy small businesses in our local communities
That’s the problem when amazon closes all those retail jobs in your community people won’t have a job so a tax cut won’t help them
The objective is to create more businesses.
Yes but if there are no jobs what would a tax cut do??
It will continue funding industries
Big companies will replace workers with automation to save money. Truck driving is one of the most common jobs in 23 states. They’re already working on self driving trucks
giving everyone 1k doesnt create businesses lol
What’s going to happen to all the truck drivers making 70k a year? It does create business. What do you think people waste the money on? Goods and services
It just takes money from working to distribute to non working we already have welfare
i'm actually okay with liquidating welfare and using money instead.
takes the overhead out of the equation
I’ve been watching a lot of John stossel videos lately, he explores smaller issues in local governments, like regulations and such, and there are lots of them which discourage entrepreneurship and generally bad for economy, you can also see some blatant corruption, crazy stuff, in more worried about those laws and infringements on human rights because only way to get rid of those is to sue the government which will take time and a lot of money, most ordinary people will just not bother to deal with it leading to more tyrrany
We’re going to lose jobs regardless of what you think. Look at stores around you like CVS and Walmart. They replaced cashier with self serving kiosk. Imagine that on a national scale
Yes long term play what does society look like
What is the logical conclusion to AI / ML and Kiosk
1k to everybody would stimulate the economy. New jobs will be created to keep up with the demand
Replacing workers with robots saves money long term
Robots also never need a break or get sick.
Obviously this will be great for software engineers and computer science majors
What is the logical conclusion think 50-100 years
If you can’t code you won’t have a job? I don’t understand the question
Societal implications and logical outcome what are we striving to? Robots doing everything do humans can live without working anymore? We just enjoy the fruits with no labor?
I was an information science major and let me tell you. Coding isn’t for everybody. While you’re guaranteed a job it’s actually pretty hard.
I can’t imagine a truck driver that’s been driving for 20+ to be retrained in a complex field.
With 1k in his community demand for other jobs with be greater. He can easily find work elsewhere
so whats the difference with lowering peoples taxes by a flat $1000 rate and giving them a check.