Message from @Charl

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2018-08-29 21:18:45 UTC  

Outliers are unfortunate

2018-08-29 21:22:02 UTC  

government is intended to enforce rule of law... if you make the government do these things, they enforce it as the rule of law. Exceptions are what you described, shitty circumstances of which the individual is not responsible for, and can not do anything about it themselves,. Idea is to encourage them though to get out of those circumstances, with incentives and moral support as well as equipping them with the knowledge so that all they need to do is literally put in the fucking effort and they will succeed if they keep true to the knowledge they are provided with.

2018-08-29 21:23:50 UTC  

Hence why I brought up vocational programs. Once you've got those skills you're a marketable asset. You are an asset and you use this to your advantage in a free market

2018-08-29 21:24:52 UTC  

Yeah agreed @Cal

2018-08-29 21:28:22 UTC  

Thing about that is access to reliable transportation which many do not have. How do we remedy that? How do we get those outliers uplifted and on the road to independence and gainful employment? What sort of programs? Or do we rely solely on charity? Or? I'm asking for examples, solutions, etc for those in those circumstances. @Cal

2018-08-29 21:32:44 UTC  

I am off and calling it a night, cheers

2018-08-29 21:34:16 UTC  

Nini! @Sheamus Gonna feed dogs brb

2018-08-29 21:35:59 UTC  

My idea is that we give to the state so the state can give back to us.

I'm talking about trades. The government can set aside tax from the coffers each year to subsidize a state run trade program to teach things like, electrical work, plumbing, welding etc. The type of jobs a country like ours needs.

Public transportation does require a huge reform though. It's too bloated and unwieldy, too many spaces for money to be lost

2018-08-29 22:15:29 UTC  

Personal tax - no, I would be willing to pay VAT on everything at a higher rate, that way everyone pays tax, the Government can put a higher tax on luxury goods such as cars over R1m etc. It would also be easier for government to control as they only need to police the businesses.

2018-08-29 22:18:09 UTC  

Public transportation is 100% non existent where I live, so the people who didn't have a way to the training would be fucked anyway. Simply wouldn't be able to get there. But, I do agree that vocational training is great!! Not enough accessible training here unfortunately though, so they go under-utilized. @Cal

2018-08-29 22:19:14 UTC  

VAT? @JJ

2018-08-29 22:19:58 UTC  

@ZombieQueen Value Added Tax

2018-08-29 22:20:13 UTC  

Thank you. @JJ

2018-08-29 22:21:42 UTC  

Sorry I was commenting on a post about 50 comments back 😂

2018-08-29 22:22:48 UTC  

No problem! I understood the context. I'm just eating, so I will give a better reply momentarily. ^.^

2018-08-29 22:23:53 UTC  

Bed time for me, enjoy your meal

2018-08-29 22:23:53 UTC  

GG @JJ, you just advanced to level 1!

2018-08-29 22:24:09 UTC  

Thank you! Nini sleep well.

2018-08-30 06:22:09 UTC  

the US was working well without personal tax before the war

2018-08-30 06:22:22 UTC  

it was a temporary measure which was to be removed later

2018-08-30 06:23:03 UTC  

so i would agree some taxation is needed, but the amount of tax and the waste in goverment is not the right mix. problem is, we cannot put the mandjie back in the cage. what's done is done

2018-08-30 06:25:01 UTC  

a solution would be for us to go out in the communities and be more active. less playstation and keyboard wars .... if we are closer to the politicians, then we could keep them more accountable. it is a necessary evil, but by being more pro-active we can minimise the detah spiral .... in my humble opinion

2018-08-30 12:40:32 UTC  

Income tax isn't the only thing that the war won. It also won the globalists the right to control the movement of people across country borders.

2018-08-30 12:42:41 UTC  

GG @Charl, you just advanced to level 6!

2018-08-30 14:36:54 UTC  

rooikat

2018-08-30 14:37:10 UTC  

wtf i just noticed i know the person who wrote that article

2018-08-30 14:37:32 UTC  

she's a american living here

2018-08-30 14:37:39 UTC  

age aprox 30

2018-08-30 14:37:43 UTC  

Wot😐

2018-08-30 14:38:24 UTC  

Serious?

2018-08-30 14:45:51 UTC  

Malema’s alleged encouragement of farm murders must be investigated – AfriForum
Marelie Greeff | 30 August 2018
Organisation says gang leader claimed that EFF leader said he will arrange a team and will provide everything necessary to commit crime

2018-08-30 14:47:29 UTC  

Yeah I've heard the recording as well.. Problem is that Malema is clearly being protected.

2018-08-30 14:56:21 UTC  
2018-08-30 14:56:45 UTC  

you can find a discussion about that article first thing on her page

2018-08-30 14:58:35 UTC  

in her article she says "but there’s absolutely no evidence that this crime is racially motivated"

2018-08-30 14:59:06 UTC  

please prove her wrong by referring to evidence here is one example https://youtu.be/JU4m8hkf-O0?t=1472 " timestamp"