You're right, we probably wouldn't have had\learned everything we have\know now today without our dirty past, but backsliding and changing things now giving the States ability to choose basically whether or not environmental protections\regulations are "right for them" in regards to the fiscal success as a state, so in essence we're not really progressing any there, so nothing will really change for the better in that regard in efforts to ensure and prioritize capital gain. We can only see where it takes us and how it will affect the economy, environment, jobs, etc. We can only sit back and witness if his changes are good for our country or not. @Sheamus

But, I can agree that we should be more isolationist than we have been in the past. I can't disagree completely with some of the things he's done in that regard.

Idk..it's conflicting..I've seen some things in the grocery stores raise in price by about $1.50 and seems to keep going up since he changed some of the trade agreements.

At least gas isn't as high as it was when we had Bush Jr in office..fuck..lol

!rank

!rank

💔

Get's dabbed on

I'll stop posting for a while so you can catch up again

You don't have to 😛

I want to earn my damn rank!

😂

You can still earn it I'm just going to chill

I think I'm annoying Sheamus 'cause I'm so fucking stubborn. Lmfao

@ZombieQueen Yeah I've been reading...you're beyond stubborn😂

I mean... the conversation is lovely, but I'm also the type of person that gets assassinated by capitalist corporations in a game I play...I'm either assassinated by Nuns or Corporations 💔 So, that should say something.

@ZombieQueen fiscal success is necessary to sustain society, economy and what not. If the lefties weren't screwing about degenerating those things, then we would be much farther ahead, all was progressing fairly well up until the 50s where progress halted as all of a sudden we needed to back track and refine things and what not.. Been going backwards ever since, and yes things have gotten really shit, world wide. All the problems of today are symptoms of the corruption that causes the problems. There is alot to Undo before we can progress again.

@ZombieQueen I'm not annoyed lol you are probably the least anal commie I've come to know. I actually have interest to keep the conversation going sometimes.

What I want to learn how to do is somehow achieve that balance and compromise between environmental protections and industry..I really do...I fucking get assassinated every time....How can these coexist peacefully?! Halp!!! I can't find much in history that has managed to attain both and still been really successful..and not indebt to other countries..:(

It can't

UGh

Coexistence is hard for humans

Humans are tribalistic in nature, we need things like ethnicity, religion and nationalism to keep us together

But I'm holding out for fission reactors

I'm holding out for the next plague.

Epidemic\Pandemic rather.

@ZombieQueen develop more green clean stuff, but make it superior to what we currently have. no one wants an alternative fuel that is weaker and more expesive than the current fuel, and same goes with anything.. can only have that with less regulation and a freer market. It's not impossible, it's just impossible to expect it from those that dont understand the necessity for competition, this equal outcome garbage kills competition, by killing incentive.

lol communism is a plague, and ideological plague that is, but does the same job.... dont have to wait much longer for that epidemic, it's much closer than you think lol

This t b h

^ Agreed.

Communism works on this humanist ideal

That's unfortunately not how humans operate

It's basic instinct.

Survival is self preservation

basic instinct = primitive = animals

we are given so much more than just basic instinct, why squander it

It assumes we all want and will be satisfied with an equal portion, unfortunately people are not easily satiated

Oh yeah I can't argue that the human race is never, ever happy with what it has. Ever.

I actually like making progress, I like getting more out for putting more in... how frustrating it is to do more and still get the same as everyone else? makes it pointless to do more than what is expected of you