@Rendier there are agitprop people out there looking to infiltrate our groups, create extreme far right views, screengrab and try to sink the platforms

the Genocide narrative does more harm than good. It gives fuel to the ppl that say its a conspiracy

the SJW will hijack your platform, and the Alt right will try hijack most others. the SJW and Alt Right are the result of communist divide and conquer tactics, both groups get rounded up and shot when the revolution is completed

Whats funny is the argument Caracal is using is exactly way Black Lives Matter use

protecting the head that matters more @RaRi

lol

hey, vegetables can propagate the species

nice one guys

57 murders a day is a lot to handle. Compartmentalize them and then tackle each group one by one.

Its almost impossible to work out the per capita statistics since the statistics on the number of farmers in SA is very unclear

well, there are decent sources @Bruh dead bodies are easy to count, as are titles at the deeds office

I dont mean number killed i mean the pure number of farmers around

LOL! @Meerkat_RSA

so we can work out per property not per person, we could get averages of people per property based on census data

Its similar to trying to work out how vulnerable township victims are as the number of township dwellers is not clear

well townships and farms are different, most farmers have a corresponding title deed, most township dwellers don't

Not just journalism is Dying, Naspers is in big kak

At the end the media is a company they don't care if they divide the people they make money.

South Africas murder rate is not that uncommon compared to other countries

GG @Bruh, you just advanced to level 1!

Solution : Police and security groups work together to patrol/enforce security in farm arias

It works wonders in Bela Bela

@Bruh ? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Map_of_world_by_intentional_homicide_rate_%282015_only%29.svg/1600px-Map_of_world_by_intentional_homicide_rate_%282015_only%29.svg.png

Btw im not saying its not a problem im saying its not a unique roblem

problem*

@Rendier how the 35k number for farmers are derived at is very important like you stated. If a farmer living outside Calvinia on a farm with his wife and three children, plus his mother in law counts as only 1 towards that 35 000, and the farmer and his wife and one child is murdered, then either you have to increase the 35k to also include the full family (on average multiply by 3.5 for example), or you can only count the murder as 1 murder.

ANC can't run a Bath let alone a country or a capital punishment system

@Meerkat_RSA join another channel

lets talk

Death sentence cant be enforced with corrupt/incompetent legal/prosecution system

I agree these conversations are pointless when we got these clowns in power

you don't want a corrupt nub handling a death penalty

courts are a joke. Example : Jacob Zuma

@Stefan Yeah that was a valid point made, and one which I dont recal being brought up before. it does make a significant change to the figures per capita really, however it doesnt change any other part of the argument really, these are still first degree crimes of passion that is actively encouraged by politicians, social media and indirectly by mainstream media

Have any of yall seen the TRT interview with malema?

However, Ernsr made a good point that almost 80% of all murders are social fabric crimes, or put differently due to domestic violonce or people being killed by someone they know (either family/friend/someone who wronged them). On the other hand farm murders are almost exlusively committed by perps unknown or unrelated to the victim. If you take this into account, whatever per capita number you get to by increasing the 35k, must be compared to a normalised "non fabric murder rate" of closer to 10 or 15.

very important point stefan

we need to focus resources where they will make the most impact