Message from SebVet in Cheers and Peace Out #general


2018-10-02 03:41:57 UTC  

Sweden is one third non native

2018-10-02 03:42:12 UTC  

Europe isn't exactly the west.

2018-10-02 03:42:15 UTC  

Hungary is under the tyranny of the EU

2018-10-02 03:42:28 UTC  

Not true, those projections is if immigrant populations maintain current rate sof reproduction and the evicence shows that doesn't happen so no that not really a good point you've madfe

2018-10-02 03:42:43 UTC  

Projections by who

2018-10-02 03:42:47 UTC  

Give me proof

2018-10-02 03:42:54 UTC  

And I'll admit I'm wrong

2018-10-02 03:42:58 UTC  

Who do you think, government agencies and staticians

2018-10-02 03:43:09 UTC  

theres a complete consensus

2018-10-02 03:43:12 UTC  

You'd trust a government institution?

2018-10-02 03:43:24 UTC  

Statistics.

2018-10-02 03:43:31 UTC  

You can do the math yourself if you want

2018-10-02 03:43:35 UTC  

the data is available

2018-10-02 03:43:42 UTC  

Lying to you is in their best interest

2018-10-02 03:44:03 UTC  

As long as you think everything is fine and dandy they won't have a problem

2018-10-02 03:44:20 UTC  

wait but then how did you come to the conclusion that the population is going to replaced if you don't believe the data in the first place

2018-10-02 03:44:28 UTC  

Sorry I live in reality

2018-10-02 03:44:31 UTC  

Everything is not fine and Mark my words it's all gonna come down

2018-10-02 03:44:39 UTC  

Ok

2018-10-02 03:44:50 UTC  

I'm not going by government data obviously

2018-10-02 03:45:01 UTC  

then who collected the data?

2018-10-02 03:45:15 UTC  

Must be some massive organisation that ive never heard of

2018-10-02 03:45:20 UTC  

What is your source of information then? @Cal

2018-10-02 03:45:56 UTC  

Some enormous extra-governemnt body that secretly doing statistical analyses and gathering data for some reason

2018-10-02 03:46:09 UTC  

even though the data already exists

2018-10-02 03:47:35 UTC  

Trust me though, European leaders do consider these factors more than you think they do. They do recognize and consider demographics.

2018-10-02 03:48:35 UTC  

But generally most western economies and governemnts are stable and quality of life I believe is at the highest in history in most places so the West is doing pretty good tbf

2018-10-02 03:57:10 UTC  

LIke one of the big reasons Germnay accepted so many Migrants wasn't humaniterian it was actually precise population managagment. Basically Fertility rates in certain European countries are quite low(This still doesn't mean islam will dominate) and literally in order to avoid negative population change they had to accept migrants. There are a host of reasons you want to avoid a population decrease but the majority of the reasons are economic and the Germans are actually hoping for a smaller decrease in fertility rates among Migrant populations that what is expected because then they would still be likely to undergoe negative population growth.

2018-10-02 03:58:59 UTC  

Don't get me wrong I acknowledge some of the consequences of these Migrants such as increased crime, higher instances of anti-semitic attacks(a lot more actually) as well as(decreasing but prevalent~) crimes of a sexual nature but unless there is an enormous sudden change in demographics that would have to

2018-10-02 03:59:21 UTC  

literally be an event the likes of which the world has never seen, I wouldn't worry too much

2018-10-02 04:00:23 UTC  

I think the most plausible scenario that would trigger a collapse of the west would have something to do with Russia and or China

2018-10-02 04:01:07 UTC  

but again to say anything of this magnitutde is in any way likely is rediculous

2018-10-02 07:07:24 UTC  

Yeah i remember watching that German politician talking about the Germans like they were pathetic for not procreating, so then they would bring in migrants that would procreate.

2018-10-02 07:14:29 UTC  

Also the German leftists actually openly and proudly acknowledge that native Germans will become a minority, and it's a good thing, it has to become a super multicultural environment. It's like they genuinely hate their own people, culture and national identity. 😕

2018-10-02 08:37:57 UTC  

I like how Japan handles it.
Instead of inviting countless people into their country*, who may or may not assimilate. They'd rather invest in AI to substitute the diminishing blue collar working class( e.i having robots that milk their cows). And Boosting their financial aid to countries in need (one of the countries with the highest spending on foreign aid).

2018-10-02 08:40:08 UTC  

Yeah but that's what Europeans are prepping for, the industrial revolution of automation, hence why i understand them to be scaling down in population so that future generations don't have a meaningless life, and also to increase their their resources and wealth that way to accommodate the coming industrial revolution.

2018-10-02 08:44:02 UTC  

It's kinda counter productive then if you're adding people with a different culture and value system to said population.

2018-10-02 08:46:07 UTC  

Mornin

2018-10-02 08:47:04 UTC  

It's counter productive even without automation honestly. If people don't share a common understanding of ideals and values, you going to waste more time arguing and fighting than actually being productive, because it will be a constant power struggle.

2018-10-02 08:48:45 UTC  

Yeah that's the point I was trying to make.

2018-10-02 08:48:56 UTC  

That kinda reminds me of a certain country tbh