Message from @JWille
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So guys
Loaded questions are typical though😕
@SebVet Why are you going on reddit for news
But @GTollini I may actually think Bolsonaro is what Brazil needs. I think a lot of his rhetoric may have been electioneering but you need a major crackdown on crime. Isn’t it like 1/3 of Brazilians have been in the middle of a gunfight.
I'm disgusted
@WuldGoGayForLauren it’s quite a good news aggregator
@SebVet dont you think that rhetoric is dangerous though? I mean if I compare this to Malema - he says its rhetoric and he doesn't really mean *actually* slitting the throats of whiteness, he doesn't really mean kill the boer, yet every time he goes off on a tangent, farmers die? That crime is bad in Brazil is undeniable, that it needs sorting is a given, but people in power, or seeking power need to be careful of what they say - lets remember that their supporters lap their shit up, and act it out ..... words do matter - and leaders should really be cognisant of that. Its also what gets me about Trump - he incites - people follow through. Its why I cant reconcile fighting off violence with violence , or celebrating violence when you have been affected by it .... Lula is a shit, he's driven the crowds to Bolsonaro - who isnt (in my uneducated opinion) the exilir - he's just a different kind of poison in an enticing bottle.
That said 55% is not a slim margin ....... thats a lot of people who buy into and espouse his opinions.
@Deleted User usually I’m all for the politics of moderation, especially in this country. But when gangs are walking around Favelas with Fully Automatic weapons and the country was rocked A) by a recession B) an enormous corruption scandal I can’t really justify supporting Hadad over Bolsenaro. The Racism and anti - LGBT stuff I think most likely(hopefully) won’t go anywhere and he’s said that he’s not against the democracy. So it’s probably worth it to have an authoritarian to restore order
@SebVet they are all shysters ... I absolutely disagree with the SJW's painting Lula as a political prisoner who had no idea (like Ramaphosa - lol) what was happening under his watch (aided by the media). What is alarming is that choices are having to be made between candidates who are bad and less bad ... so yeah Haddad vs Bols. not hard to see why B. won - the thing is that he IS a capitalist - its more than just his anti gay stance, pro-torture stance that is of concern (as well as some of his more detrimental short term capitalist policies) I get the nationalist feeling and I see just why people are so angry that right-style politics is gaining traction - but at what cost .... anger is infectious, also what happens when people who DID vote for his rhetoric get pissed off and take matters in their own hands. This is why I support self determination. Like-minded people should live with like minded people.
So Inclusive
@Apollo - lol the meme diffusal method. Love your style. Also - WTF are those girls thinking?
War and violence
I'm not trying to defuse anything i just wanna fuck with the rhythm of the conversation. I expected more action from the conversation
It's all becoming sensitive subjects lately...
I could see the ANC holding a solidarity event for farm murders(White people need not attend)
awe!!!!
So
Hillary was racist on tv.
Best part is hillary calling african kids "super predators"
Lindsay Maasdorp is n Maasepoes.
Velaphi Khumalo get nothing for hate speech wtf
@DirtNapBrand Vicky Momberg also got nothing for hate speech. She got 3 years for criminal injura. Velaphi Khumalo still need to appeal in front of court for criminal injura ..
https://businesstech.co.za/news/government/280833/heres-who-would-win-the-elections-if-south-africans-voted-tomorrow-survey/ @Rendier what's your thoughts on this? You and steenhuisen sort of touched on this
seems about right. Most of the ppl I know are saying they are not going to vote for the DA or even vote at all.
The conversions usually ends up with me trying to convince them to at least vote for somebody instead of not voting at all. I feel a no vote helps the ANC
1800 adults are a small research pool.
I think it does the opposite really. Their power and influences hinges on a voting majority that is dependent on them, its in their best interests to keep people dependent and invested in voting, because people not voting are pretty much independent and don't depend on the government. Would be awful for them if the majority One day decides they don't need the government, because they can do better for themselves. But yeah I don't see it as a bad thing to be honest.
the current voting majority wont turn against the party that freed them from Apartheid. will take a couple of generations more till something like that can happen in SA.
Apartheid is just an excuse, they clearly are very much comfortable with the idea of segregation and race based policies, the way they are currently going.