Message from @AndeB

Discord ID: 528199808993853440


2018-12-28 11:55:01 UTC  

It is a guilty pressure

2018-12-28 12:14:41 UTC  

Twitter and Facebook is a Ego Trap.

2018-12-28 12:17:21 UTC  

In this day and age you can have ten master degrees. But if you dont even have a certificate for commonsense then you are as dumb as the rest.

2018-12-28 12:49:47 UTC  

isn't charity work supposed to be voluntary - not something you are paid for doing?

2018-12-28 12:56:32 UTC  

Either way this seems so pointless - we all know that marxists don't really care about the poor. They just hate the rich! Even if Howes does charity work, he would have done if for self-serving reasons and not because he cares.

2018-12-28 12:58:58 UTC  

Whose winning so far on the twitter battle?

2018-12-28 13:03:20 UTC  

well, it doesn't look great for Renaldo.

2018-12-28 13:04:18 UTC  

@Meerkat_RSA Pieter Howes is a Tietkop because his head is so round and smooth, when you see him you want to rub his head.

2018-12-28 13:04:35 UTC  

Guys - sorry to change the subject abruptly, (and I've not been online in a while, food coma etc) - did you see the new Expropriation Bill? Schneeked in just before Christmas

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/483400118809395200/528196570458619914/Revised_Expropriation_Bill_published_21_December_20181.pdf

2018-12-28 13:05:27 UTC  

Hey @RobVZ Yes, what are your thoughts?

2018-12-28 13:06:30 UTC  

```
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DRAFT EXPROPRIATION BILL - Land disposessions are expected to start in Q2 of 2019
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INTRO
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For the state to expropriate land without compensation, 2 things needs to happen:

1) The constitution needs to be ammended. The Constitutional Ammendment will be presented to parliament on the 31st of March 2019.

2) Legislation needs to be written into law on how expropriations are allowed to take place. The Draft Expropriation Bill deals with the legislative aspect.

Public comment on this bill closes on the 19th of February 2019, and it is expected that it will be presented to Parliament soon thereafter.



Section 1 - Definitions:
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Section 1 deals with definitions:

*** MINISTER - means the Minister responsible for Public Works.

Currently it is this guy, Mr. Thulas Nxesi.


*** ORGAN OF STATE - means an organ of state as defined in section 239 of the Constitution, this definition is: "any department of state or administration in the national, provincial or local sphere of government".

Basically, person working for government.


*** PROPERTY - means property as contemplated in section 25 of the Constitution.

Section 25 speaks about land in the broader context, but Subsction 4(b) clearly states that "property is not limited to land."


*** PUBLIC INTREST - includes the nation’s commitment to land reform, and reforms to bring about equitable access to all South Africa’s natural resources in order to redress the results of past racial discriminatory laws or practices.

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2018-12-28 13:06:43 UTC  

```
Section 3 Subsection 1 and 2 States that the Minister of Public works is the expropriation authority and that his duty is to expropriate land on behalf of the organs of state.

Further down in Subsection 5(a) it says that the organ of state becomes the legal owner of the property on the date of expropriation.

The owner can then be evicted and the onus is on him to proove in a court of law, when/if his case was treated unfairly.

If government decided to radically impliment these land reform measures (as they have claimed to do before), the courts will instantly be overrun with claims. It might be decades before your case gets heard.

The date of expropriation is set on the day that land owners are served with a Notice to Expropriate from the minister.

[17.3] In the cases where compensation is due to the owner, but have not been paid for any reason, the state will still become the legal owner of the land. The onus is on the disposessed to approach the courts to retrieve his money.
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2018-12-28 13:06:47 UTC  

@Klipkop (Clip-Cop) I'm still reading, but I nearly died choking on my Redbull at your "Tietkop" comment

2018-12-28 13:06:48 UTC  

Those are my thoughts

2018-12-28 13:07:40 UTC  

Dankie - will DM you if that's ok

2018-12-28 13:08:07 UTC  

Salute

2018-12-28 13:09:15 UTC  

@Klipkop (Clip-Cop) let's us just hope that Afriforum will take this EWC to court

2018-12-28 13:09:52 UTC  

they will - along with the institute or race relations + the Da

2018-12-28 13:17:22 UTC  

@Meerkat_RSA Change the Klipkop emoji to this one please

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/483400118809395200/528199784717221890/Klip.png

2018-12-28 13:17:27 UTC  

@Rendier what happened to the live show

2018-12-28 13:19:34 UTC  

On his last live show he said that it will be the last one for 2018.

2018-12-28 14:32:56 UTC  

Finally got the Christmas tree up

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/483400118809395200/528218804065402880/image0.jpg

2018-12-28 14:34:18 UTC  

@Klipkop (Clip-Cop) i will do it on my pc when i get home.

2018-12-28 15:23:14 UTC  

@Klipkop (Clip-Cop) <:klipkop:528231157687386113>

2018-12-28 15:23:45 UTC  

n bietjie klein

2018-12-28 17:39:09 UTC  

What in the actual fuck

2018-12-28 17:39:39 UTC  

I am temporarily disabled my Twitter i am done

2018-12-28 17:40:42 UTC  

Or i am just login of. And deleting Twitter

2018-12-28 17:41:16 UTC  

I have deleted Twitter

2018-12-28 18:15:13 UTC  

My only question is did they braai the sheep afterwards?

2018-12-28 18:24:22 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/483400118809395200/528277043381534720/DvhVtTWXcAADyex.jpg

2018-12-28 18:32:14 UTC  

That's a good doggo.

2018-12-28 18:42:37 UTC  

All im saying is that if you eat meat then this process is similar to that used in a slaughter house.

2018-12-28 19:18:13 UTC  

its a public place is the point

2018-12-28 19:27:58 UTC  

Totally get that. But if you came up on a farm this type of stuff should not bother you.

2018-12-28 19:39:55 UTC  

Also from a farm, never had a sign next to the slaughter as a warning to the workers/anyo e else

2018-12-28 19:44:35 UTC  

True. But this type of shit is meant to trigger people. If this makes you angry then they win.

2018-12-28 19:46:59 UTC  

Normies.

2018-12-28 19:48:01 UTC  

Or training to desensitize. Same with the white dolls getting thrown out.