they believed in freedom, and they allowed people to vote

The founding fathers set America up as a republic not a democracy.

representative democracy

which is even worse

Where would you go to cite where you're getting your information from?

and don't give me that bullshit about "landed white men"
they set about expanding the franchise almost immediately after the establishment of the Freemasonic Republic

Which would you like me to cite? Everything I have said so far has been a basic fact.

Cite these basic facts.

What are your sources for information?

do you need me to write out the definition of "representative democracy" for you?

Where are you getting this from exactly?

Getting what? You need to tell me what you're not understanding.

Do you not think the Founding Fathers believed in democracy?

I do not actually.

That they didn't believe in freedom, "natural rights", and the rest of the Lockean drivel?

America wasn't originally intended to be a democracy.

yeah it was, a representative democracy

which is what most republics are

I think you're getting things confused.

What are your sources for information?

you're trying to split a hair that doesn't actually fucking exist

MY SOURCES FOR GODDAM WHAT

I think you're growing a hair in a place that doesn't exist.

THAT A FORM OF GOVERNMENT IN WHICH PEOPLE ELECT REPRESENTATIVES IS A REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY?

I want to see where you're getting your info from, and why are you getting so mad all of a sudden?

Do you need me to cite THAT for you?

I'm getting my information from a basic goddam knowledge of political terms

According to Socrates a democracy only works in a homogenous society.

Merriam-Webster defines a Republic as "a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law"

*id est*, a representative democracy

So you're saying nobody ever voted in natsoc Germany?

Was not the fuhrer the representative of the people?

yes, but he wasn't elected

Are you certain he wasn't originally elected into power?

positive

he was appointed

he was appointed to the office of the Chancellor, and then exploited loopholes in the constitution to make himself a dictator

after the Reichstag fire

You sure he wasn't elected 6 times?

not to the office of the Chancellor

since that's not an elected position