graham already has pizzagate type dirt on him

i dont know about mccain and ryan except that theyre assholes

This whole Pizzagate stuff i'm keeping a finger on, there's definatly somthing there, but I'm not going to have any witch-hunts quite yet.

If it's found to all be true, then there needs to be some witches burning.

I also see waht you mean, can't trust Mccain and Ryan as far as you can toss em'.

i was seeing pizzagate type stuff years ago, its not really anything new

you had reports first break in the 80s, that im aware of

then that bush white house documentary, call boys or whatever, around 1990

The smartest thing for the Republicans in congress to do is to bend over and accept Trumpism and just ride it through, for four to eight years.

congressmen had that pulled before it aired on history channel

yeah but i dont know how willing theyll be to do that, especially the lindsay graham types who know its over for them

ten gunderson was talking about pedophilia rings around 2000

then andrew breitbart in 2011

so thats about 30 years of this stuff being somehwat covered already, even if not always in the MSM

theres a list of government officials on voat though who have been reported busted for all kinds of stuff related to children, they have 2 threads actually listing a lot of these people

state department seems to be one of the worst offenders in terms of keeping bad stuff on their computers

ted gunderson**

If the FBI knows anything, they're probably keeping it quiet. Imagine how we'll be looked at if it's found out our top people in government sold and killed underaged sex slaves...

oh yeah itll look terrible

at least we wont be alone, already have the british embarrassed and the norwegians

and some others i forgot about already, its too much info for me to keep up with it

all the other western governments should really look into their own governments though because this stuff can happen anywhere and probably does happen in most countries, even if it isnt organized in some global network

It sounds crazy, but with the wikileaks emails it's just too obvious somthing's not right.

That's the only solid evidence that can be found right now. I hope someone can come up with more solid evidence... Video.. Pictures...

I'm not saying it's not happening, and I'm not saying that it's definatly happening, call me indifferent, but curious.

theyve got a lot on voat

thats where theyve got lists of already convicted government officials

they had a dude last year, january 2015, head of cyber security for HHS i think it was, arrested not only for child porn but for telling some guy he wanted to rape and murder kids and wanted to meet up with the guy to actually do it

and not only did they bust him but the justice department put a whole article about it up on their own .gov website

these arent normal people

before this year id never even heard of the idea of people being like "ohh yeah man lets meet up and torture some kid, i love it"

shit is bizarre

id heard of pedophilia rings and all that, but not THAT level of shit

Any court files?

well yeah obviously im sure there are if the guy was convicted, you have to go to court for that

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-acting-hhs-cyber-security-director-sentenced-25-years-prison-engaging-child

Thank you.

"Through the website, DeFoggi accessed child pornography, solicited child pornography from other members, and exchanged private messages with other members in which he expressed an interest in the violent rape and murder of children. DeFoggi suggested meeting one member in person to fulfill their mutual fantasies to violently rape and murder children."

it makes it sound like the guy had kids ready to go or something

like yeah, just let me pull one of these kids out of my personal dungeon and ill be over in a sec so we can torture them

like wtf is going on