Message from @momoneymoproblems
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Its a de facto machine gun ban
Like, the things I think gun owners should be pushing for
>CMP being allowed to release surplus machine guns (m16s, m60's, etc.)
>CC Reciprocity
>HPA
These are thing that it's not hard to convince moderates on
Lol people are scared already of machine guns, look at the bump stock panic, some people even think ar15s are machine guns due to misinformation
As for CC some places have extremely restrictive rules on who can CC to the point where only people with connections can get permits, and some people are convinced CC permit holders are just going to randomly shoot people(see the teachers with guns in schools debate)
Also with HPA most people are still convinced that silencers are what you see in movies
Then you have the incrementalist thinking, where gun rights vs gun control is a tug of war type of thing where even if what you give to the other side is harmless, you're still losing
The thing to convince moderates on right now is that "assault weapon" and "high capacity" magazine bans are useless and unconstitutional
Funny thing is gun control used to be about handgun control, they're used in the vast majority of homicides
Americans like their handguns though, so they moved on to "assault weapons"
And the more the media freaks about ar15s, the more people buy them
Funny thing about all of this is that i'm not even right leaning, im just a center left libertarian that likes to call out the democrats for their shit lol
Assault weapons is a nebulous term so that Democrats can manage to slowly encroach on rights
Yep
Even in the original AWB it banned stuff like the tec 9 and street sweeper shotgun
And in washington state I1639 redefines all semi auto rifles as "semi automatic assault rifles"
Yes, even 10/22s
In Australia our gun ban is overstated heavily by American media
It is, the buyback didnt even confiscate half of australia's guns and now australia has more guns than they did before the buyback
It also didn't have a significant impact on homicides or suicides afaik
I imagine there's a lot of "mysterious" trips to the outback with lots of brass and lead
People like to focus on gun deaths though, "look guys, banning guns lowered gun deaths", but overall deaths remain unchanged
The idea that you need to ban guns to stop people from choosing to take their own lives is incredibly insulting
You can still get a weapon if you wanted to go that way, you just need a reason like hunting
they recently banned a bolt action ar upper in straya
I mean...
maybe it could've been mistake for something a lot deadlier
and fearmongering.
sure, it's bullshit, but understandable.
australia also had a panic over lever action shotguns recently
pretty sure they put them in the most restrictive category
wait there are lever action shotguns?
I only know a very actual specific types of firearms. I'm not an expert on anything, but I'm not a fucking moron.
Yeah there's the winchester 1887, that's an older design but newer designs were made for australia
asutralia put pump shotguns in a pretty restricted category, but lever action ones weren't. So in australia lever action shotguns were pretty popular as a result, but then they got pushed to the most restricted category(i believe worse than pump action)
Ah, I see.
that's probably why I've never heard of them. pump and semi-auto are more common here
My father has a 20 gauge pump and a 12 gauge semi-automatic shotgun.
they're like, antiques with how old they are though, and they work perfectly fucking fine.
Yeah I own a mosin nagant carbine manufactured in 1942 and it holds up well, only issue was the stock had a crack on it but i glued it and the stock doesnt impact functionality
Ah.
are guns just like, built really shitty these days or something?