Message from @Tornzy

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2018-10-11 18:06:33 UTC  

even if you stage a communist revolution the uprising eventually *becomes* the state, so that the communist ideas can be enforced

2018-10-11 18:06:44 UTC  

A corporation?

2018-10-11 18:06:45 UTC  

well ive thought it can work in pretty small communities

2018-10-11 18:07:53 UTC  

so like, a family unit?

2018-10-11 18:07:56 UTC  

still honestly think communism big gay

2018-10-11 18:08:03 UTC  

enforcing "communism" within the family?

2018-10-11 18:08:05 UTC  

possibly

2018-10-11 18:08:14 UTC  

you have a big family?

2018-10-11 18:08:19 UTC  

i did growing up

2018-10-11 18:08:26 UTC  

no

2018-10-11 18:08:29 UTC  

not enforcing

2018-10-11 18:08:39 UTC  

doesnt have to be forced

2018-10-11 18:09:00 UTC  

so what are you gonna do if your sibling doesn't want to play along? `kick him out?

2018-10-11 18:09:05 UTC  

where does the sharing is caring idea mostly come from

2018-10-11 18:09:09 UTC  

no

2018-10-11 18:09:35 UTC  

tell on him to mom and dad so they can scold him for not sharing his toys?

2018-10-11 18:10:00 UTC  

mostly communism at the dinner table where you had to make sure the little ones got their fair share

2018-10-11 18:10:40 UTC  

and my family had alot of little ones

2018-10-11 18:10:54 UTC  

sharing is caring is a propaganda piece.

2018-10-11 18:11:02 UTC  

yeah thats tru

2018-10-11 18:11:04 UTC  

and nurturing the family line isn't communism

2018-10-11 18:11:04 UTC  

basic welfare isn't communism...

2018-10-11 18:11:39 UTC  

maybe i dont really understand how communism works

2018-10-11 18:11:55 UTC  

idk im just spilling whats on my mind

2018-10-11 18:12:44 UTC  

tl;dr communism is where the labour (proletariat) control the means of production but cannot claim ownership of product

2018-10-11 18:13:23 UTC  

then i clearly have communism and welfare mixed up

2018-10-11 18:13:26 UTC  

thats funny

2018-10-11 18:13:42 UTC  

communism big gay

2018-10-11 18:13:47 UTC  

welfare ehh

2018-10-11 18:13:50 UTC  

maybe?

2018-10-11 18:15:08 UTC  

if implemented well it's really just about giving equal opportunity, giving the people who would otherwise stack up at "0" a "1"

2018-10-11 18:16:09 UTC  

yeah and i cant really see whats wrong with that

2018-10-11 18:16:13 UTC  

in your dinner table analogy, you step in and ensure the 2 year old who has no means to get food on his/her own gets enough to eat, so the 2 year old has the opportunity to grow up and become something

2018-10-11 18:16:58 UTC  

well i had to give my little sisters and brothers a portion of my mac and cheese alot

2018-10-11 18:17:09 UTC  

which was gei

2018-10-11 18:17:55 UTC  

so i guess i can say welfare works well in small communities just not nation wide

2018-10-11 18:18:47 UTC  

how so? The Nordic countries are doing alright, Sweden's migrant issue being unrelated

2018-10-11 18:19:06 UTC  

so i guess my house was state enfoced welfare?

2018-10-11 18:19:22 UTC  

sure

2018-10-11 18:19:39 UTC  

well theres alot of little countries in europe size wise

2018-10-11 18:22:55 UTC  

you've probably got a point there, welfare systems need constant trimming and re-evaluation to keep the bloat down and efficiency up, which of course gets exponentially harder the larger any given community is