While the left around the Iraq war was completely against the government. These ideas shift

Yeah

That's the horseshoe theory

They end up in the same place

it's like if the horseshoe was made of mercury

You need a constant flux

You can't stay in the middle

I thought the horseshoe theory was that the extremes of the right and left, in terms of ideology, is that they end up in the same place?

Well, yeah

Their extremes

I was talking purely about money in politics.

it's that they're fundamentally the same

It's all nepotism

Because of our lame social nature

perceive it as you will

There's a difference, though

One comes from the production of goods/services

The other comes from the escalation of power of those manufacturers

I think arguing definitions is a good way to miss the point though

It's all cyclical, because products and ideas go obsolete

Yeah, good point. It's a superficial issue at best

Just avoid using the established and dusty/stagnant political monikers and explain your fundamental issues like you would to a four year old

Minus the somewhat denigrating tone of voice

People don't seem to appreciate that

yeah pretty much lol. Just saying "oh I'm a libertarian" leaves a lot of room for interpretation. Just say what you believe in pertaining to the relevant issue

Remember Trump's run in the 2000s?

nope

He withdrew from the race

Because of infighting of his party "The Reform Party"

He expressed his concerns by referring to David Duke, Pat Buchanan, and Lenora Fulani as a Klansman, a Neo-Nazi, and a Communist, respectively.

"Drrumff **never** even disavowed David Duke! What a racist."

Lol he mentored HRC

The human rights commission?

I'm a europoor, please be patient

Hillary rodham clinton

David duke

OH, right

Thwres a meme of him kissing her, and a pic next to it of him with his klans garb

It's alright, though.

Hillary puts hot sauce on **everything**

And always carries some in her handbag.