Message from @NippleKing
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progressivism is more of a direction than a set idea. In 100 years what will be progressive will be different from now or 100 years before
Same as conservative
It's relevant to the structure of society
Fundamentalists are like what came before that
Going back to the absolute bedrock of the society
i think conservitism can actually replace progressivism with the definition of "out with the less structurally sound/in with the more structurally sound" but from a different perspective "keep the more structurally sound/let go of the less structurally sound"
This is why the exact word used is absolutely integral. People will see the word and have to know what the idea is with it or make assumptions about what it is.
That's why I usually avoid the established terms
Because of their connotations, which aren't always descriptive of the original meaning
Yeah while progressivism is a moving word conservitism can be seen as a standing word if you look at them like that
It also makes for much nicer conversation
Conservatism is a stranding word
Fundamentalist would be the standing word
Also why I don't like the "left/right" divide. Makes it way too easy to discredit someone elses ideas simply because they use a word they identify with.
There's also a different meaning here in Europe
left/right
Yeah, like being on the right or left is supposed to be an inherently bad thing? It makes no sense. lol
From what I've heard other American pallerinos
I heard my mom say something like "isn't he a republican though?" or some shit like that. Like why does it matter which letter he has next to his name if he has good ideas.
The two party system was a dumb idea to reinforce, mang
Left - more control to governments
In theory.
In practice, they're both bought out by busniesses and monied interests, so it's moot.
While the left around the Iraq war was completely against the government. These ideas shift
Yeah
That's the horseshoe theory
They end up in the same place
it's like if the horseshoe was made of mercury
You need a constant flux
You can't stay in the middle
I thought the horseshoe theory was that the extremes of the right and left, in terms of ideology, is that they end up in the same place?
Well, yeah
Their extremes
I was talking purely about money in politics.
it's that they're fundamentally the same
It's all nepotism
Because of our lame social nature
perceive it as you will
There's a difference, though
One comes from the production of goods/services