Message from @Arch-Fiend

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2018-02-20 14:33:37 UTC  

That is one reason that I'm not concerned with the alt right that much, since one of the big criticisms is that "oh it'll lead to violence" if they actually manage to get power and try to implement their ethnostates. Yeah, it'll lead to violence more than likely, but we're already on the road to violence with just about every other direction at this rate.

2018-02-20 14:34:12 UTC  

you really seeing Richard Spencer throwing a punch? 😛

2018-02-20 14:34:27 UTC  

the man faints if theres a crincle in his vest

2018-02-20 14:34:28 UTC  

He's had practice by now. <:Kappa:327142715592540171>

2018-02-20 14:34:31 UTC  

richard spencer wont be the head of the alt right for long

2018-02-20 14:34:40 UTC  

thats taking a punch, not throwing 😛

2018-02-20 14:36:12 UTC  

hes trying to balanced to many factions within the movement, and because its a movement it really doesent do well with having a head, but because its also right it doesent do well without a heirarchy. so at some point the movement will form a political identity and will take the form of whatever specialized group from within gets the most factional power from it

2018-02-20 14:36:31 UTC  

same thing happened with the bolshiviks, same thing happened with the nazis

2018-02-20 14:37:15 UTC  

well, those factions had better talking points than

"We'll pay the out-group to move to a shittier country"

2018-02-20 14:38:24 UTC  

Sounds good, and I'm fine with them keeping that as an option, but it's pretty optimistic to assume that even half of the minority population will even think about accepting that deal. Sure, *some* will take the deal, but I think it's safe to say that most won't.

2018-02-20 14:39:05 UTC  

alt hype has the most reasonable solution, and even then i think its a bad idea in the usa

2018-02-20 14:39:20 UTC  

you couldn't pay me to move to a sh*thole country :P

knowing the people taht are there, they'll rob me of the money i got paid to leave for

2018-02-20 14:39:32 UTC  

I've only seen him on Warski streams and one of his videos. What is his idea?

2018-02-20 14:40:51 UTC  

create an ethnostate within the usa with the 4 states easts of washington state by having a mass migration of ethnostatists to the region while also paying people to leave them. he picked them because they are relitively low population while also being relitively pure

2018-02-20 14:41:01 UTC  

isnt he that guy that wants to create small grouped states of races?

2018-02-20 14:41:24 UTC  

yeah but technicly thats also one of richard spencer's plans

2018-02-20 14:41:47 UTC  

Ah, yes, Millenial Woes proposes a similar solution: have racial states within the US that are along the lines of already-existing native reservations.

2018-02-20 14:42:00 UTC  

though alt hype has a plan while richard spencer has plans because as i said, spencer wants to be everyones best friend

2018-02-20 14:42:31 UTC  

he wants to be everyones friend to recruit more for the alt right, so they can crown him king 😛

2018-02-20 14:42:33 UTC  

His argument is that it would be easy since, if you divided the US along racial lines as it is today, we are already grouped apart by race for the most part.

2018-02-20 14:43:38 UTC  

he has a point but its not as cleancut as he might like and there are also severe problems to be had. theres only one state in this country that has its own power grid, and that state isint good ethnostate material

2018-02-20 14:44:46 UTC  

It would require an overhaul of our infrastructure, yeah, but considering the US already has a rating of D or D+ when it comes to it's infrastructure right now anyway, I think it can use a bit of a good overhaul.

2018-02-20 14:46:06 UTC  

the usa needs a revolution or a world war to see any progress in many of the social/economic issues it has today. trump is a breath of fresh air but he isint a new climate, not yet anyway

2018-02-20 14:46:24 UTC  

Yeah.

2018-02-20 14:47:09 UTC  

the ethnostate thing in the usa really doesent seem promising to me anyway due to it being so difficult to kick the europeans out let alone the blacks and asians

2018-02-20 14:47:18 UTC  

or just people that stop caring about media opinion, so they can finally tell all those whiny SJW types to shove off, cut off their welfare and actually compel improvement again

2018-02-20 14:47:53 UTC  

i mean it would take the native american population so long to repopulate america anyway

2018-02-20 14:48:58 UTC  

if europeans want ethnostates i think they should look to the geography their ethnicities come from

2018-02-20 14:49:37 UTC  

It's more clear-cut with European countries than it is with the US, at least.

2018-02-20 14:50:04 UTC  

europe just needs to get its shit together

2018-02-20 14:50:22 UTC  

The biggest thing Europe can do is to just send the migrants back.

2018-02-20 14:50:28 UTC  

or let russia conquar it

2018-02-20 14:50:41 UTC  

i'd welcome a Putin rule at this point tbh

2018-02-20 14:51:02 UTC  

he's simple

you don't get in his way, he wont have you killed

2018-02-20 14:51:27 UTC  

Well, it's easy to say that now because right now we have common interests, but what about after he as achieved those common goals that we share?

2018-02-20 14:52:22 UTC  

i dont think aleksander dugin is interested in the us

2018-02-20 14:52:47 UTC  

i'm white, with slavic blood, working on a masters degree in programming and no ambition to overthrow putin

i'll be the last on his list of people to remove 😛

2018-02-20 14:53:26 UTC  

he might be like "well having alaska back would be nice" but maybe not

2018-02-20 14:53:50 UTC  

True, and I'm one of those people can could roll with a regime to some degree, but plenty of people don't. lol

2018-02-20 14:54:01 UTC  

he's not interested in any global conquest cuz he'd knows fallout ghouls will be next

2018-02-20 14:54:38 UTC  

hell, our dutch prime minister of foreign affairs resigned last week cuz he was caught having lied about listening in on a meeting with Putin where he talked about forming "great russia" again