Maybe western countries deserve to fall lol.

ask the giraffes about their socially constructed biological sexes.

unfortunately "fall" doesent mean what you might think it means in the historical context. falls are actually characterized with dtrastic political/economical shifts within a short period of time

so falling could mean becoming completely feminized

Yeah.

OK, I should have said restructured.

we are not yet completely feminized?

maybe we should just make the west great again 😛

to be fair, the differences should probably be abstracted to the sex hormones, as most of the outliers usually have higher than normal of the opposite sex's hormones. or less of it, depending on which direction they sit as an outlier

you wont be feminized until the feminists actually run out of things to complain about

so... never

eh

its a "movement", "movements" never run out of complaints, they just make up new ones to stay relevant

they will find a limit, at some point those hungry for power become so gluttonus for it they become lazy

like the deepstate got lazy

so feminists will have a happy point long down the road, but it wont be pretty

so my suggestion is if the west falls, just be the winner

With the more 'grid girl' like incidents that happen, the more your average person will become red-pilled as to what feminism is all about these days.

that is a good thing about it, but the issues come from the slow insidious nature that it works with. feminism being multiple generations old now

Yeah.

and it always found new goalposts to move

hitched its wagon with intersectionality too, fortifying it. though that may make it weaker in the long run because everything seems to be moving towards a future war between left and right with very little between them to get in the way

I know I tend to be a cynic in these matters, but I think violence is coming, either way.

thats gonna be a very one sided fight

considering one side wants guns away from people

and the other side see guns second only to god 😛

That is one reason that I'm not concerned with the alt right that much, since one of the big criticisms is that "oh it'll lead to violence" if they actually manage to get power and try to implement their ethnostates. Yeah, it'll lead to violence more than likely, but we're already on the road to violence with just about every other direction at this rate.

you really seeing Richard Spencer throwing a punch? 😛

the man faints if theres a crincle in his vest

He's had practice by now. <:Kappa:327142715592540171>

richard spencer wont be the head of the alt right for long

thats taking a punch, not throwing 😛

hes trying to balanced to many factions within the movement, and because its a movement it really doesent do well with having a head, but because its also right it doesent do well without a heirarchy. so at some point the movement will form a political identity and will take the form of whatever specialized group from within gets the most factional power from it

same thing happened with the bolshiviks, same thing happened with the nazis

well, those factions had better talking points than

"We'll pay the out-group to move to a shittier country"

Sounds good, and I'm fine with them keeping that as an option, but it's pretty optimistic to assume that even half of the minority population will even think about accepting that deal. Sure, *some* will take the deal, but I think it's safe to say that most won't.

alt hype has the most reasonable solution, and even then i think its a bad idea in the usa

you couldn't pay me to move to a sh*thole country :P

knowing the people taht are there, they'll rob me of the money i got paid to leave for

I've only seen him on Warski streams and one of his videos. What is his idea?

create an ethnostate within the usa with the 4 states easts of washington state by having a mass migration of ethnostatists to the region while also paying people to leave them. he picked them because they are relitively low population while also being relitively pure

isnt he that guy that wants to create small grouped states of races?

yeah but technicly thats also one of richard spencer's plans

Ah, yes, Millenial Woes proposes a similar solution: have racial states within the US that are along the lines of already-existing native reservations.