Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-04-02 21:27:15 UTC  

But news agencies have taken political stances before, and tried to send political messages before.

2018-04-02 21:27:44 UTC  

This exact message and this exact video, maybe not, but it's still indictative of the structure that's in place.

2018-04-02 21:27:54 UTC  

political would be "gun control is bad" for example

2018-04-02 21:28:02 UTC  

not "we are trustworthy"

2018-04-02 21:28:33 UTC  

I would say it is given the 'fake news is bad' message, especially when you take into account that by 'fake news' they typically mean alternative media.

2018-04-02 21:28:45 UTC  

and yes the structure in place could be abused... but not really that much more than any nationwide channel

2018-04-02 21:28:45 UTC  

so, if Hillary Clinton would say "Don't listen to other candidates, listen to me, i'm trustworthy",

that would constitute non-political to you?

2018-04-02 21:29:08 UTC  

activist news is bad?

2018-04-02 21:29:10 UTC  

politicians are inherently political

2018-04-02 21:29:26 UTC  

so is news

2018-04-02 21:29:33 UTC  

it shouldn't be

2018-04-02 21:29:34 UTC  

any news story will affect your view on society

2018-04-02 21:29:40 UTC  

but that's not politics

2018-04-02 21:29:47 UTC  

news is somethign happened

2018-04-02 21:29:51 UTC  

news inherently is not

2018-04-02 21:29:52 UTC  

and who and where

2018-04-02 21:30:01 UTC  

any and all news,

affects your view on society

2018-04-02 21:30:18 UTC  

Since when does the MSM report on 'just the facts' without a political slant?

2018-04-02 21:30:25 UTC  

even hearing that a litter of kittens is born,

it gives you positivity, makes you feel like the world is doing better

2018-04-02 21:30:44 UTC  

which then can be turned on you if you're told others are not as fortunate and you start to feel bad

2018-04-02 21:31:42 UTC  

doesn't have to be intentional, but it still does

2018-04-02 21:32:02 UTC  

And that's assuming the best.

2018-04-02 21:33:36 UTC  

And don't forget that even the lack of the presentation of a story can be a political stance in and of itself. Even picking and choosing which stories they present, even if they did it 'without a political slant', will itself push a particular political message or agenda.

2018-04-02 21:35:01 UTC  

The Parkland shooting was all over the MSM for days, and is now leading into the gun control discussion again; however, another school shooting which took place only about a week later, one in which the shooter was taken out by a security officer with a gun before he could do any real damage, was barely even mentioned in anything other than that county's local news.

2018-04-02 21:35:41 UTC  

And even afterward, they continue to push the Parkland story.

2018-04-02 21:35:46 UTC  

I wonder why that is, exactly?

2018-04-02 21:36:52 UTC  

And even within the Parkland shooting itself. How many MSM outlets were reporting about not only one, but *four* Sherif's deputies were standing outside of the school doing absolutely nothing while the shooter went on his rampage?

2018-04-02 21:37:11 UTC  

You can use news to further an political agenda, that is not in question. But the news itself is first and foremost something that happened.

2018-04-02 21:37:36 UTC  

In theory, that's how it is supposed to work.

2018-04-02 21:38:36 UTC  

That is what i mean when i say that news in inherently not political while a politician is.

2018-04-02 21:38:53 UTC  

the point of it all is,

Even though the message reported might not be intended to mean anything than promotion,

It tells you that A, these medias are all a mouthpiece for the same goal.
And if they all publish the same "narrative" the people will be inclined to believe the message because "look, they all say it"

and B, the content of their message is an attempt to get you to tune out other sources in favor of theirs, which can as they say themselves, be dangerous to a democracy, when people only get 1 account of things

2018-04-02 21:39:19 UTC  

The news isn't supposed to be political, but right now it's just a mouthpiece for a particular political agenda.

2018-04-02 21:39:39 UTC  

And we're not talking about the idea of news, but the practical reality as it exists right now.

2018-04-02 21:40:00 UTC  

also news "SHOULD" be inherently not political,

Modern news is factiosn telling their take on an incident, rather than report the incident itself

2018-04-02 21:40:09 UTC  

And back to the spot... yes i see the potential for abuse (mainly because the stations run under different banners) but the spot itself is not different to other spots.

2018-04-02 21:41:09 UTC  

Too many journalists see their work as an opportunity to promote their own pet political notions, rather than a responsibility to inform the public and let their readers and viewers decide for themselves.

2018-04-02 21:41:43 UTC  

I know of very few people i would call journalists.

2018-04-02 21:42:22 UTC  

Writer/Activist/Idiot is a lot more common.

2018-04-02 21:42:29 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/430482179605266442/1yRJXuBCz3UJco9GmLSvA_eT55jf5ipaMVjKC09VB3w.png

2018-04-02 21:42:42 UTC  

haha

2018-04-02 21:42:44 UTC  

That is funny.