Message from @JadenFrostwolf

Discord ID: 430477264459661312


2018-04-02 21:16:30 UTC  

....you don't think the news media pushes an agenda?

2018-04-02 21:16:38 UTC  

sounds political to me tbh

2018-04-02 21:16:49 UTC  

Of course they do.

2018-04-02 21:17:32 UTC  

i don't think that promo is any different that what the rest of the news media does

2018-04-02 21:17:33 UTC  

Because everyone has an agenda: you, me, Jayred, CNN, Tim, Sargon, the alt right, islamist terrorists, etc.

2018-04-02 21:17:52 UTC  

i stopped using an agenda in the 2nd grade!

2018-04-02 21:18:01 UTC  

😛

2018-04-02 21:18:07 UTC  

lol

2018-04-02 21:18:21 UTC  

i don't have an agenda, which is probably why i keep forgeting to buy milk 😄

2018-04-02 21:18:38 UTC  

thats my joke! i'm going to make an agenda to ruin you!

2018-04-02 21:18:55 UTC  

How is it self promotion, though? It seems they're all being told to deliver the same message about what to think to the general public, to me.

2018-04-02 21:19:13 UTC  

that is waht they're doing

2018-04-02 21:19:26 UTC  

i guess in a way it IS self promotion, because they're saying "use us for oyur news instead of "the others""

2018-04-02 21:19:51 UTC  

it is a promotional text that is general enough to work for all stations with little to no changes

2018-04-02 21:20:49 UTC  

they are saying "we are unbiased news and don't report fake news" - exactly what cnn is saying.

2018-04-02 21:21:04 UTC  

This isn't some generalized ,"btw please subscribe" request or anything like that. This is a specific political message with a specific intent being passed down to all of these news agencies.

2018-04-02 21:22:11 UTC  

And there is no disclosure about any of this either.

2018-04-02 21:22:32 UTC  

They are respresenting the information as if they are the originators of it.

2018-04-02 21:22:36 UTC  

what political message would that be?

2018-04-02 21:22:52 UTC  

don't listen to other media, only us because they push an agenda, we don't

2018-04-02 21:22:57 UTC  

^

2018-04-02 21:23:13 UTC  

Which is ironically pushing an agenda.

2018-04-02 21:23:25 UTC  

that is not an political message... that is essentially what every single news outlet says

2018-04-02 21:23:46 UTC  

that is the exact message of the cnn apple spot

2018-04-02 21:24:38 UTC  

the democracy bit is very ironic but other than that...

2018-04-02 21:25:46 UTC  

So you don't see the potential abuse of power here? And let's be frank: a power which has been and will continue to be used?

2018-04-02 21:26:18 UTC  

This doesn't creep you out in the slightest?

2018-04-02 21:26:20 UTC  

unless you believe they are all unbiased, the political message is clear "only listen to us so you don't get other sides of an argument"

2018-04-02 21:26:48 UTC  

again... not political, just promotion

2018-04-02 21:27:03 UTC  

okay, what would you define as political?

2018-04-02 21:27:15 UTC  

But news agencies have taken political stances before, and tried to send political messages before.

2018-04-02 21:27:44 UTC  

This exact message and this exact video, maybe not, but it's still indictative of the structure that's in place.

2018-04-02 21:27:54 UTC  

political would be "gun control is bad" for example

2018-04-02 21:28:02 UTC  

not "we are trustworthy"

2018-04-02 21:28:33 UTC  

I would say it is given the 'fake news is bad' message, especially when you take into account that by 'fake news' they typically mean alternative media.

2018-04-02 21:28:45 UTC  

and yes the structure in place could be abused... but not really that much more than any nationwide channel

2018-04-02 21:28:45 UTC  

so, if Hillary Clinton would say "Don't listen to other candidates, listen to me, i'm trustworthy",

that would constitute non-political to you?

2018-04-02 21:29:08 UTC  

activist news is bad?

2018-04-02 21:29:10 UTC  

politicians are inherently political

2018-04-02 21:29:26 UTC  

so is news

2018-04-02 21:29:33 UTC  

it shouldn't be