Message from @Atkins

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2018-05-10 16:23:44 UTC  

i think anarcho communists have some valid points

2018-05-10 16:23:54 UTC  

i dont want either to be major partys

2018-05-10 16:24:01 UTC  

they are about to both be major partys

2018-05-10 16:24:28 UTC  

or atleast major social movements that influince what the big center think

2018-05-10 16:25:21 UTC  

>they are about to both be major partys
lolwut?

2018-05-10 16:26:05 UTC  

well yeah the alt right is big even if it loses 50% of its population it will still be a major influincer once it has direction

2018-05-10 16:27:24 UTC  

i dont think it will lose as many people as who dont actually support an ethnostate though because 1. name recognition and partasanship, and 2. lesser of 2 evils

2018-05-10 16:28:01 UTC  

if the left doubles down, people will

2018-05-10 16:28:15 UTC  

its been very clear to me recently just how little principles matter to people especially moderate people. look at the day of freedom when people who have a free speech event cant even back that up

2018-05-10 16:28:19 UTC  

ethnostate > communism

2018-05-10 16:29:45 UTC  

the alt right and antifa will sacrofice reason for their ideals, the liberalists will sacrofice ideals for reasons

2018-05-10 16:30:25 UTC  

just like I believe in the Free Market, but Nationalism and Protectionism become attractive compared to the left

2018-05-10 16:31:04 UTC  

i think in a war between extreme left and extreme right, right wins and we all lose

2018-05-10 16:31:25 UTC  

how far are you thinking about it?

2018-05-10 16:32:00 UTC  

it doesent need to go far, nazis and commies just killed eachother like thugs in the street before hitler was elected

2018-05-10 16:32:06 UTC  

that was bad enough

2018-05-10 16:33:10 UTC  

the right is well armed, it's a one sided battle

2018-05-10 16:33:52 UTC  

the most that means to me is they will have an easier time not that the result will be any better

2018-05-10 16:34:55 UTC  

the extreme right has no reason to go "full hitler"

2018-05-10 16:35:12 UTC  

even most people in the extreme right don't believe in that

2018-05-10 16:35:29 UTC  

@Arch-Fiend "i think in a war between extreme left and extreme right, right wins and we all lose" - this is exactly what Noam Chomsky says.

2018-05-10 16:35:29 UTC  

as for antifa, they are brainwashed

2018-05-10 16:36:31 UTC  

Today's extreme left won't listen to Chomsky though, because he isn't a post-modernist.

2018-05-10 16:37:47 UTC  

Just quick question

2018-05-10 16:38:11 UTC  

What would it be like if people implemented spartan style law today?

2018-05-10 16:38:22 UTC  

give them a charismatic leader who brings out the inner desires of people then reinforces it in order to facilitate fanatisism and youll have full hitler. the people of the welmer republic didint want to gas the jews, take over europe, and live in an extremely regimented society, but eventually they did as he asked them what they wanted then told them what they wanted then culled them to the point they would die for him

2018-05-10 16:38:39 UTC  

Think it will give them the discipline to avoid extremesm?

2018-05-10 16:39:42 UTC  

i dont know much about spartan style law, im not that old

2018-05-10 16:40:04 UTC  

not to mention extreme is just another term for antiestablisment

2018-05-10 16:40:58 UTC  

antiestablishment can be very disciplined but just think the way things are is wrong. in order to keep extremism suppressed you need a world where people dont think the establisment is wrong

2018-05-10 16:41:35 UTC  

after nazi germany formed believe it or not they had the least problems with extremists probably in history

2018-05-10 16:41:58 UTC  

because if your not a nazi your not a german, and they were at war was anyone who wasent german

2018-05-10 17:34:41 UTC  

by that logic, the USSR, China, and NK have less problem with extremists

2018-05-10 17:35:06 UTC  

but that is what happens when you ARE the extremists

2018-05-10 18:48:41 UTC  

idk how you think extreme left is "anti-establishment"

2018-05-10 18:49:06 UTC  

in communism the government has all the power

2018-05-10 18:49:43 UTC  

unless you mean anarchy lefties, but that's an even greater utopia

2018-05-10 18:57:53 UTC  

Establishment, as in, the current order.

2018-05-10 19:03:33 UTC  

anti-THE establishment

different from all establishment

2018-05-10 19:04:53 UTC  

related to a joke my gf told me the other day

Russian: "Get in car"
American: "Why do you talk like that, it makes you sound stupid."
Russian: "Me? stupid? In america you have to say get in THE car, because you might think it means any random fucking car. We are not that stupid is russia"