Message from @possumsquat93

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2018-05-23 17:07:21 UTC  

Why's it third person. Isn't the point of training to make it second nature?

2018-05-23 17:40:23 UTC  

@Arch-Fiend Going back to the subject of white rice, I'm not sure where the author got that bit of info. The studies listed in the reference section merely establish a relationship between elevated intake and the development of diabetes in Asian women.

2018-05-23 17:40:44 UTC  

This video, about halfway through, points to a decline in rice consumption among the Chinese from 1989 to 2011.
https://nutritionfacts.org/video/if-white-rice-is-linked-to-diabetes-what-about-china/
The studies discussed at around the 3:20 and 4:15 marks show how protein amplifies the insulin spike from high-glycemic foods.

2018-05-23 17:42:16 UTC  

So the diabetes epidemic could be more about what's eaten alongside the rice than the rice itself.

2018-05-23 17:46:02 UTC  

In other news, none scientist and scientist with an bias maybe be proven wrong like some many times before

2018-05-23 17:46:26 UTC  

Remember MSG?

2018-05-23 17:46:46 UTC  

Actually wait, people are just racist against the Chinese.

2018-05-23 17:48:19 UTC  

I haven't heard anything about MSG lately. What are they saying now?

2018-05-23 17:49:12 UTC  

Nothing. It just was once like this evil chemical when turns out, its just extra tasty salt.

2018-05-23 17:49:33 UTC  

MSG, GMO, Gluten.

2018-05-23 17:49:39 UTC  

Oh, okay.

2018-05-23 17:49:58 UTC  

Basically people blame what they eat rather than themselves for eating too fucking much.

2018-05-23 17:50:03 UTC  

probably shouldent be eating high glycemic foods anyway. but asia has never been like all cultures, a carb exclusive diet. besides an issue with this is soy, soy has always been highly involved in the asian diet because you require a legume in the diet with rice in order to avoid a protine deficency. so it doesent make much sense for protine to be a problem unless you have an overconsumption just in general

2018-05-23 17:50:37 UTC  

if theres overconsumption, thats the problem

2018-05-23 17:51:15 UTC  

obesidy regardless of diet will negitively impact your health

2018-05-23 17:51:16 UTC  

Might be the type of protein, I don't know.

2018-05-23 17:51:45 UTC  

unless its the same type thats found in rice it wouldent make sense unless general overconsumption

2018-05-23 17:52:23 UTC  

What culture is carb exclusive?

2018-05-23 17:54:39 UTC  

i dont think any culture in human history has been carb exclusive

2018-05-23 17:55:31 UTC  

we developt from an omnivorous species and never lived in an envirnemnt without hunting or livestock as part of the culture

2018-05-23 17:55:33 UTC  

Oh, I was looking at your previous comment comparing Asia to other cultures.

2018-05-23 17:56:03 UTC  

even native americans ate meat on occasions

2018-05-23 17:58:49 UTC  

incas farmed hamsters

2018-05-23 17:59:09 UTC  

So what do you think has caused the high rates of diabetes there, when they had some of the lowest rates twenty years ago?

2018-05-23 17:59:27 UTC  

sugar

2018-05-23 17:59:49 UTC  

As in, they're eating more rice? Are you agreeing with that author?

2018-05-23 18:02:04 UTC  

are they eating more than they need? or eating more than they should relitive to other food? if the former is the case then they should be getting more obese. also to add they are probly living less active lifestyles as all developed countrys are doing. if its the latter than id expect to see other health problems associated with not getting enough neutriants in general which i dont think ive seen. its also possible that they arnt eating more rice than they use to

2018-05-23 18:04:10 UTC  

from what i hear they are getting more obese too so its probably more to do with that, it could be more obese from both eating more and exersizing less just like america

2018-05-23 18:04:39 UTC  

in which case its not what they are eating, its how much

2018-05-23 18:05:20 UTC  

You don't think the rise of fast food has anything to do with it?

2018-05-23 18:08:42 UTC  

fast food is only as bad as what is in it, if you make fast food but it has the same ingredients in the same proportions as something that is in the native diet before it or just something you could eat in your normal diet without any health problems then fast food is just food. but thats rarely the case, what tends to happen is fast food adds salt or sugar or offers the richest options already availbe in a native diet as their main fair

2018-05-23 18:09:06 UTC  

ive seen someone lose fat and eat healthy on a week of eating mcdonalds

2018-05-23 18:09:54 UTC  

however that is not consistent with what that kind of food tends to encourage even if they have guidelines they "want" you to follow on their website

2018-05-23 18:12:05 UTC  

ive actually tried to eat fastfood with a reasonible diet before, my main issue was balancing calorys and salt and i never even tried to make sure the carbs were low glysemic because that would have added a whole new factor. ultimately i found i could really only manage to find salads at chipotle that had lots of protine added to them and sour cream which would be truly balanced

2018-05-23 18:12:30 UTC  

oddly enough tortilla chips actually balanced it out a lot better than the food alone

2018-05-23 18:13:20 UTC  

fast food is a problem in the us and probably abroad, ive heard that in europe they actually require all fast food to have half the salt the usa providers have

2018-05-23 18:32:22 UTC  

salt sugar and fat, all things the body needs. which people immediately view as bad and think its a good idea to not touch them ever

2018-05-23 18:32:42 UTC  

i definatly agree that the human taste seeks those 3 out, and as we raise kids with more of those in their diet they will find it harder to adapt their taste to not craving those more than they already do (as you know children have the highest craving for the 3)

2018-05-23 18:33:31 UTC  

oh the body needs them, thats why it craves them. sugar maybe not so much, its more than sugar is a fast food literally not just figuratively and when humans needed to be very fast it was useful

2018-05-23 18:33:56 UTC  

no one should think that never having any of them (maybe sugar) is a good idea though

2018-05-23 18:33:58 UTC  

its more types of sugar than sugar itself