Message from @Poppy Rider

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2018-05-24 15:48:36 UTC  

so they get investors

2018-05-24 15:48:42 UTC  

but never make any profit

2018-05-24 15:48:45 UTC  

until the endgame

2018-05-24 15:48:54 UTC  

the investors foot the bill

2018-05-24 15:49:39 UTC  

you have no idea of the costs of video content. Hell, even if you wanted to host JUST _your_ videos, it costs a LOT

2018-05-24 15:50:02 UTC  

I don't think YT can make money, ever. And be completely free. Far to much server space. The reason Google keeps YT is for the collection of data. It is a gold mine for any AI project. If you get something for free your are the product.

2018-05-24 15:50:48 UTC  

why does it cost money? what is the overhead? server space, and a webface, right?

2018-05-24 15:51:06 UTC  

Google would keep YT even if it didn't make money ever, because it makes money on their other products

2018-05-24 15:51:06 UTC  

and the people to maintain that

2018-05-24 15:51:32 UTC  

traffic costs alone are huge

2018-05-24 15:51:50 UTC  

HD space for the video in 5 different formats is another

2018-05-24 15:51:51 UTC  

Bandwidth and server maintenance.

2018-05-24 15:52:28 UTC  

Google or Mirosoft put a sever at the bottom of the ocean to save on cooling.

2018-05-24 15:53:00 UTC  

well, i just figured out what the first instantiation on the moon will be

2018-05-24 15:53:42 UTC  

although thats not entirely accurate. space is rather hot for being so cold

2018-05-24 15:53:49 UTC  

Supermarkets are offering their frozen storage space to server providers. It's really expensive.

2018-05-24 15:54:37 UTC  

The coldest natural place in the sola system is on the moon. A creater on the northpole has never seen the sun.

2018-05-24 15:55:18 UTC  

first installation on the moon from private companies: a server farm

2018-05-24 15:55:51 UTC  

Let's start with Greenland shall we. And see how we go fro mthere.

2018-05-24 15:57:02 UTC  

i mean, why not start with the Antarctica? land has to be cheaper, less government regs, probably colder too

2018-05-24 15:59:08 UTC  

I don't think you're far from the truth there. Fast forward a few decades and you'll have power stations being commissioned there.

2018-05-24 16:16:12 UTC  

So it's clear that you can't make things 100% free like YouTube. Well, unless you are a data collection firm. But we all know how well people like those. So what about something in the middle. Free you get X amount of hours of free video hosting. Hit that limit, you need to free up space. The sell teirs or features. Because part of the problem with youtube is that probably most of the stuff it is storing, it's not get much if any traffic. So basically it's free storage.

2018-05-24 16:16:32 UTC  

Which is a major drain in resources.

2018-05-24 16:18:43 UTC  

a data collection firm like Discord

2018-05-24 16:21:40 UTC  

Like all free sites

2018-05-24 16:23:12 UTC  

Or you can have the YT that we have. A very rich company that realizes how important a site like YT is and writes off the cost as a charity.

2018-05-24 16:23:47 UTC  

They don't write it off as charity. It's overhead fr advertising.

2018-05-24 16:23:50 UTC  

For*

2018-05-24 16:23:58 UTC  

A company could.

2018-05-24 16:24:33 UTC  

YouTube isn't important. We had tv and still do.

2018-05-24 16:25:01 UTC  

It's only popular because it is free, and people can make a living off it

2018-05-24 16:25:20 UTC  

But it's free because we are not the customer. Companies are

2018-05-24 16:25:50 UTC  

Which is why it keeps shooting it's creators because it's customers are being finicky

2018-05-24 16:27:37 UTC  

You have to pay to use the air waves. YT is important because it is free for everyone. TV has gate keepers. Thats why I think it would be good for a company to realize the good that YT brings and take it on as a charity. No need to worry about hit pieces. Although I'm not sure how long theses pieces will have any effect.

2018-05-24 16:35:12 UTC  

youtube has gatekeepers

2018-05-24 16:35:53 UTC  

Where are the gay traps?

2018-05-24 16:36:20 UTC  

It's Thursday. They take Thursdays off. Come back tomorrow.

2018-05-24 16:37:18 UTC  

YT has Gatekeepers. I didn't say it was perfect put a private company is the best way to run it. You can't have it ran by a government.

2018-05-24 16:37:21 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/449249560120918026/c01.jpg

2018-05-24 16:37:31 UTC  

the only real way to not have gatekeepers is either through having lots of competition, or by decentralization. Which should be an option with block chain. make creators pay for storage of their videos. "want 50 gb for data? give me 50 gb on your machine. uninstall the app? fine, your channel goes down by how much space that machine gave me"

2018-05-24 16:38:03 UTC  

put all the cost on the people using the system