Message from @Atkins

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2018-05-30 12:51:34 UTC  

I remember listening to a podcast and the guy on there said that it's better for a movie to get a Rotten Tomatoes score in the mid 80's rather than the 90's, as a score in the 90's is the sign of a film for critics while a score in the 80's is more of a sign of mainstream appeal

2018-05-30 12:52:13 UTC  

That makes sense to me.

2018-05-30 12:52:36 UTC  

If every critic agrees it's likely virtue signaling and not actual criticism.

2018-05-30 13:50:34 UTC  

Maybe I've been watching the "solo: a star wars story" reviews while the critical score has stayed at 70% but audience score whent down to 54% and now it's up to 63%

2018-05-30 13:50:59 UTC  

Which makes me think there's some fuckery going on there.

2018-05-30 13:56:44 UTC  

Solo seems caught between the two factions

2018-05-30 13:57:44 UTC  

those who see a female and scream sjws have gone too far and those who see anything progressive and go this is the best thing since sliced bread

2018-05-30 13:57:51 UTC  

and somewhere in the middle are real reviews

2018-05-30 14:07:57 UTC  

once again: "We want to be treated equally by being treated differently!"

2018-05-30 14:15:47 UTC  

http://archive.is/qTwvU archive link for those who don't want to give gizmodo clicks

2018-05-30 14:15:59 UTC  

danke

2018-05-30 14:16:18 UTC  

i have them blocked in my hosts file to always remind me to use archive.is

2018-05-30 14:16:33 UTC  

lmao

2018-05-30 14:38:47 UTC  

@Grenade123 I mean star wars dose have some progressive bullshit in it, but the last two films were just lazy.

2018-05-30 14:41:33 UTC  

and that is where the real criticize lies. stuck in-between the to factions. No, its not suck because, or not solely because, it has progressive bs in. And no, it is not great just because it has progressive bs in it. The problem comes down to being lazy writing, and uninteresting story telling. Ultimately the cause for this is irrelevant, the solution is to stop being lazy.

2018-05-30 14:43:15 UTC  

One of my main gripes is that Finn has no purpose as a character. He does nothing. Accomplishes nothing.

2018-05-30 14:43:34 UTC  

He's not a hero because he's continually running away.

2018-05-30 14:43:56 UTC  

Even when he fights, he's somehow shown to be wrong for doing so.

2018-05-30 14:44:16 UTC  

The one time he could have been a hero the mechanic person stopped him.

2018-05-30 14:44:19 UTC  

I don't get what purpose they think he serves.

2018-05-30 14:44:52 UTC  

At this point he's just a foil and love interest for the mechanic asian that nobody remembers the name of.

2018-05-30 14:45:16 UTC  

Who just kinda showed up and was a mary sue.

2018-05-30 14:45:20 UTC  

the problems of last jedi wernt really the progressivism, that probably reinforced it, but it wasent the real issue, it was actually full blown incompatency behind the writing

2018-05-30 14:45:50 UTC  

I think the two problems are deeply intertwined.

2018-05-30 14:46:06 UTC  

that movie doesent just ruin starwars, it ruined the last movie in the sequince and people had problems with that movie to start with

2018-05-30 14:46:28 UTC  

My main problem is that Rey never gets a fucking scratch one her and is just magically the best at everything with so little training.

2018-05-30 14:46:40 UTC  

Yeah that's awful

2018-05-30 14:47:14 UTC  

you look at the original trilogy and Luke fucking sucks at everything, constantly needing his buddies to save his ass. and only haft he disappears for god knows how long does he come back at all competent, and he still almost dies in the end

2018-05-30 14:47:16 UTC  

Luke is supposed to be extremely powerful, and it takes him years of training and failure to achieve anything.

2018-05-30 14:47:22 UTC  

yeah i dont really care to much about that in 8. i think they should have solved that, but at the same time i dont actually think RAY is even the main character in that movie, i think she has less than 50% screentime

2018-05-30 14:47:35 UTC  

also, what did they do to fucking luke?!

2018-05-30 14:47:54 UTC  

"i won't strike you down in anger....but'll kill this little kid here"

2018-05-30 14:48:04 UTC  

Yeah that was pretty bad,

2018-05-30 14:48:07 UTC  

i think luke is their culmination of incompatence and progressivism

2018-05-30 14:48:11 UTC  

"I don't want anyone to find me but i'll leave a map"

2018-05-30 14:48:21 UTC  

but the incompatence was a big factor in it

2018-05-30 14:48:31 UTC  

and all they had to do to fix that scene, is make snoke appear like it seemed kylo did

2018-05-30 14:48:37 UTC  

I don't know who that old hermit on the island was, but it wasn't Luke Skywalker.

2018-05-30 14:48:42 UTC  

same exact misunderstanding, but motive completely different

2018-05-30 14:48:56 UTC  

what you have to understand is that the key focus the writer for the last jedi had was "take any thing people want to see in this movie, and do the exact opposite"