i want vice admiral gender studies to be a traitor for that subversion without reason

The best way to get people to trust you and have faith in you when you ask them to do something dangerous is to publicly belittle them.

Works every time.

Really nothing has changed from 7.

if you really think about it, they have less at the end of 8 than they had at the end of 7

The big bad guy is dead.

oh fuck a toooooon of shit changes from 7

And they can just skip ahead a few years, so they have an army again.

What has changed from 7?

The big bad didn't matter. Came out of nowhere, died for no purpose.

7 set up plot lines

8 got rid of them

Not really

yes really

i mean, they still have the main bad guy, kylo. they just got rid of both his dad issues

his actual dad in 7, and his step dad in 8

Ray's family is nobodys? Could be a lie.

The knights or ren are still out there.

7 set up nothing really.

tbh

I was kinda expecting Kylo and Rey to be brother and sister. So that was a subversion as well.

I don't think most people expected that to be a thing.

Their force skype sex thing was a creepy AF in 8.

aside from "hey, empire 2.0 is back because......reasons. where have they been hiding, and why does the resistance need to be a thing? Because reasons. fuck it, we needed a reset button. these are the big baddies that have a fleet yet apparently have no planets they control and just pissed off the whole sector"

oh, and in 8 we just destroyed their fleet

destroyed their fleet with a very obvious tactic that no one ever did ever before in thousands of years of light speed.

"what is up with luke, why did he become a hermit" finding the map to luke was part of the plot of 7 to set up for more plot in 8, they ruined that by making it pointless and not actually add to anything. "who is snoke, how is he so powerful as to form a first order thats arguibly more powerful than the empire was" doesent matter because he dies in 8 and its not even explained. "what will the first order do now that most of their stuff is destroyed" well 8 basicly says they have no limit to how much shit they can have and the resistance has nothing because "reasons".

really, why is the first order dangerous? This like a civil war in a third world country to the rest of this sector

Capitalism.

the knights of ren are a thing but the movie didint even do anything with them, its the only thing besides "characters are running away" that is left in the series

Don't worry guys I bet we'll get an even bigger death star next movie.

It's be perfect.

>.>

its worked so well before

This one blows up galaxies.

i mean, we still have the question of where the fuck they got those resources

because apparently they have them

Stole them from downtrodden waifs.

i kinda think it would be a good idea to kill ray in the first scene of the next movie. it would be a subversion that you could actually make something interesting from

downtrodden waifs of fucking where?!

Oppressing brown people probably.