Message from @Dennafen

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2018-06-10 20:00:15 UTC  

As I said, as opposed to someone that is making news content that is actual journalism

2018-06-10 20:13:14 UTC  

What would make their opinions valid. You're comparing apples and oranges when you say that.

2018-06-10 20:15:43 UTC  

An opinion is an opinion. I am not making a judgement on when an opinion is valid or not

2018-06-10 20:15:55 UTC  

I don't think this talk is going anywhere lol

2018-06-10 20:26:35 UTC  

You singled out these youtubers as having opinions that "aren't particularly valid" that seems to imply that some opinions are more valid. So who can have a valid opinion is it just you?

2018-06-10 20:48:05 UTC  

Okay I just read back and nowhere did I say anything about some opinions being more valid than other opinions. More the contrary that their opinions are equal to the opinion of basically anyone else.

2018-06-10 20:48:15 UTC  

I dont give a shit about opinions I want reporting

2018-06-10 20:48:23 UTC  

That's why I follow Tim Pool and not armchair commentators

2018-06-10 20:54:11 UTC  

the majority of what tim does anymore is sit in his chair and talk about other peoples articles you know that right?

2018-06-10 20:58:43 UTC  

the majority of all news since the construction of news media companys has been someone else dressing up the reporting of another person in a way that best fits their narritive, EVEN if that narritive is to present the truth best possible in a way that is most easly digested, though rarely ever that noble. the invention of the television actually got us closer to on the ground reporting and witnessing real events than before that even though news existed in some form, centurys before tv or radio. some anime or dog profile picture with a human void talking about something that in itself is probably about someones oppinion in the first place is simply radio with nice images, no more no less real than you get elsewhere.

2018-06-10 21:01:02 UTC  

ultimately if you want the truth, no one can do more work for you than yourself even about a topic on the other side of the world, because youll never know more than what you perceive and rationalize, so the perceptions of others and rationality of others will only ever be a tiny fraction of influince on what you are truly capible of knowing

2018-06-10 21:06:53 UTC  

That's not a bad sentiment @Arch-Fiend, we are ultimately the arbiters of what is or isn't true for ourselves.

2018-06-10 21:09:49 UTC  

ultimately even then were flawed, so really i dont worry to much about what the truth is, 99% of us are just going to assume the truth is what we think anyway

2018-06-10 21:10:32 UTC  

im going to assume the truth, and when i have more evidence ill assume again and perhaps contradict my former self

2018-06-10 21:11:26 UTC  

@Arch-Fiend Mate what is your gripe. Why do y'all have to get so argumentative all I said is that I don't like smug armchair commentators and that Tim isn't one since he isn't being snarky, isn't being condescending and cuts right to the point. Tries to be objective, etc. You have to see the distinction I am making. How much more clear do I have to make it before you understand? He is more like Phillip De Franco in this way than, say, Paul Joseph Watson, Sargon, etc.

2018-06-10 21:12:25 UTC  

@Chlodovech You're acting like a smug armchair commenter while decrying smug armchair commenters.

2018-06-10 21:12:40 UTC  

Well that's just, like, yer opinion, mate.

2018-06-10 21:12:47 UTC  

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2018-06-10 21:12:52 UTC  

I didn't do shit lol I don't know what I did even wrong.

2018-06-10 21:13:01 UTC  

I said something, you got argumentative over nothing.

2018-06-10 21:13:28 UTC  

I said something and you got defensive over nothing.

2018-06-10 21:13:45 UTC  

I don't think anyone is angry with you.

2018-06-10 21:13:52 UTC  

Because you misconstrued what I said.

2018-06-10 21:14:04 UTC  

And then seem to condemn me for some perceived mistake I made.

2018-06-10 21:14:07 UTC  

You presented your point badly then.

2018-06-10 21:14:13 UTC  

Alright.

2018-06-10 21:14:22 UTC  

I guess that's settled than. Can we move on?

2018-06-10 21:14:33 UTC  

I presented my point badly. But now all is good. No more need to drag this out lol

2018-06-10 21:14:55 UTC  

So we agree then?

2018-06-10 21:15:10 UTC  

That you misunderstood me because I didn't elaborate well enough.

2018-06-10 21:15:14 UTC  

Sure.

2018-06-10 21:15:44 UTC  

Then why dismiss some peoples opinions over others?

2018-06-10 21:15:49 UTC  

I don't.

2018-06-10 21:15:56 UTC  

See? This is what I said about you not understanding me.

2018-06-10 21:15:59 UTC  

This was never about opinions

2018-06-10 21:16:03 UTC  

I don't care about opinions

2018-06-10 21:16:11 UTC  

I wanted journalism, I wanted reporting, I wanted basic observations

2018-06-10 21:16:19 UTC  

Unskewed, untempered, I want news.

2018-06-10 21:16:26 UTC  

Fuck opinions lol

2018-06-10 21:17:28 UTC  

youve said they arnt great thinkers, their not informed scholars, and they are so pretentious. that they are random blebs with opinions just like the rest of us. my argument, and my only arguement is simply, no one isint a random pleb with opinions even if they are the most respected scholar in their field. an appeal to authority is meaningless in matters of truth due to the inherent bias of the perceiver of any "truth". someone you walk past on the street may say the truth to you and the president of your country may lie, the only way you know is by guessing which one is actually the truth. infact even science doesent really or shouldent really care how long youve been working, the key to truth is science is actualy just if you can repeat results you claim to occure at the end of a reaction before the scrutiny of other people who will try to find better explanations for what youve claimed and show them.

2018-06-10 21:19:24 UTC  

Tim injects his point of view and his experiences into what he says, and it's not just the facts.