Message from @Arch-Fiend

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2018-06-15 19:38:38 UTC  

Isn't the abortion debate about considering it murder to kill the zygote?

2018-06-15 20:25:53 UTC  

I think so

2018-06-15 20:30:16 UTC  

Yeah I posted about this yesterday. Should be interesting to see how it plays out.

2018-06-15 20:57:55 UTC  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol6GA4dMZw4 this is an interesting video

2018-06-15 23:40:54 UTC  

When I agreed with him about the campus stuff I felt gross.

2018-06-15 23:54:54 UTC  

I'm a hopping mad left-handed duckhunter

2018-06-15 23:57:48 UTC  

i agree with him on most things ive seen up to half way through the video because i didint watch beyond that (stuff to do n shit). though i would personally like to get into him on native americans, colonialism, and the united states because fundomentally i disagree with him on the united states to some degree though perhaps we could make a compramise, i actually see ethnonationalism being something that should be a european fight and not an american fight, i think ultimately america should be held to different standards simply due to how much of a fuckup the united states is.

2018-06-15 23:59:49 UTC  

north america is the first supplimentary population of its magnitiude in recorded history

2018-06-16 00:00:21 UTC  

we also made it worse with slavery

2018-06-16 00:01:09 UTC  

by fuck up you mean melting pot ? lol

2018-06-16 00:06:54 UTC  

Our story is only different regarding slavery because we didn't use far-off colonies to have slaves on, instead they were in our homeground estates, where they were semi-integrated into a white culture. It was very much a part of our economy.

2018-06-16 00:16:16 UTC  

fuck up i mean the first successful genocide of an entire contanent to supplament a popuiation with another. a fuckup where now the dominant population of north america is one without genetic ties to its envirnemnt and would suffer for that without technology and ultimately adapt features of that native population. a fuckup where we enslaved another population, breed that population to a great degree until it was a fraction of the total contanental population, and then once we admited its unethical nature released them into the new geography where they had NO CHANCE IN HELL to compete with the dominant population economicly due to the native population having heritible wealth and experince with far more advanced technology and a resentment for that freed population but unable to justify getting rid of them because that would also be unethical as that former slave population contributed to the contanental prosparitiy

2018-06-16 00:17:16 UTC  

the united states and canada cant opperate on any other rules than a melting pot because we have no justification for not opperating as a melting pot that fits withen our morals

2018-06-16 00:17:53 UTC  

best we can do is be anti-immigration.

2018-06-16 00:18:35 UTC  

i might compramise with taylor to bulkanize north america into different ethnostates with the understanding we cant let this happen again

2018-06-16 00:19:38 UTC  

but im also fine with the way things are in north america too so long as we deal with illegal immigration and so long as europe gets its shit together and secures itself from annilation

2018-06-16 00:20:16 UTC  

actually australia might also be a case similar to the us

2018-06-16 00:20:38 UTC  

australia and new zealand

2018-06-16 00:20:45 UTC  

but not a problem for me i dont live there

2018-06-16 00:20:48 UTC  

and iceland

2018-06-16 00:30:46 UTC  

I think you're mistaking the idea that history didn't just start after 1776. Genocide is nothing new, and undoubtedly there were people in the middle of Asia that will never be in any history book because they were never allowed to be written about. If you think history comes from a howard zinn book you're kidding yourself. And as far as I know, there are still American indians around and their pop hasn't been reduced to zero.

2018-06-16 00:46:51 UTC  
2018-06-16 01:01:18 UTC  

We're both speaking in generalities because American history didn't itself start in 1776 anyway. And because we can't blame our founding fathers on what the British and French did to natives and Spain's stain in mexico. Or maybe we can, since europe is just a cancer or whatever it is people believe.

2018-06-16 02:29:34 UTC  

i realized it didint happen in 1776, i just let you get away with it. consitering i was talking about the contanent

2018-06-16 04:58:58 UTC  

@Arch-Fiend Jared Taylor has made a video on native americans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K84c7NlZzno

2018-06-16 05:03:50 UTC  

Americans didn't genocide the natives. diseases killed 90% plus of 2 million native americans and American and Canadian settlers fought for control over territory just like the natives did for centuries before Europeans even arrived the difference is the whites were more successful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL2XX_2tNk8&t=867s

2018-06-16 05:04:11 UTC  

Sorry whos claiming the whites genocided them?

2018-06-16 05:04:36 UTC  

Arch-fiend claim the natives were genocided.

2018-06-16 05:04:42 UTC  

I thought that was kinda not true. The natives were killing each other. Even bought rifles from whites to do it.

2018-06-16 05:05:14 UTC  

There were the infected blankets thing. Whether its intentional or not is not observable. Cant claim to know what the people doing it were thinking.

2018-06-16 05:05:48 UTC  

They did kill off some belligerant groups however, though I dont think thats genocide, but they did kill natives.

2018-06-16 05:06:02 UTC  

Not for their race but cause they were being a nuisance.

2018-06-16 05:06:15 UTC  

I mean, who wouldnt?

2018-06-16 05:06:30 UTC  

All very true mate.

2018-06-16 05:06:43 UTC  

Nah, I think you two just have a different definition of genocide really.

2018-06-16 05:08:56 UTC  

I'm bassing my reply on what he said here.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/457411234438971392/arch_fiend.JPG

2018-06-16 05:10:13 UTC  

Yeahh not gonna take sides. Have a good one,

2018-06-16 05:10:23 UTC  

Thanks mate.

2018-06-16 05:13:57 UTC  

@Arch-Fiend Even if Americans did genocide the natives North America wasn't the first contanent to have most of it's population be genocided. Africa was the frist, if you don't believe me look up the bantu expansion.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/457412494022148100/9k.png