Message from @RyeNorth

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2018-06-18 23:41:13 UTC  

in much the same way that how much you bench press does not measure how well you'll do in a fight.

2018-06-18 23:41:20 UTC  

There are other factors

2018-06-18 23:43:38 UTC  

and part of the point of horseshoe theory is really that authoritarians who don't share the same political outlook hate each other, and people who are on the libertarian (chaotic) side of things are far more likely to be able to coexist in peace, at the very least.

2018-06-19 00:48:31 UTC  

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2018-06-19 01:19:24 UTC  

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2018-06-19 01:29:04 UTC  

So, in dealing with people online, I think I'm going to start reposting people's arguments with appeals to emotion removed before I continue to dismantle their argument. I just had one particular argument (where I didn't think to do this first). Anyone care to judge? I'm trying to leave in things that are relevant to the conversation, anything you'd remove or add, I'm fine tuning here.

2018-06-19 01:30:58 UTC  

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2018-06-19 01:31:16 UTC  

into

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2018-06-19 01:32:57 UTC  

Really, I feel like I could remove a bit more, but I want to have something to argue against in this. -_-

2018-06-19 01:33:38 UTC  

You can re-insert "Why not keep families together as they await trial?"

2018-06-19 01:33:42 UTC  

I want to start illustrating to people that most of their arguments are based in emotional appeal as opposed to actual reasoning.

2018-06-19 01:33:46 UTC  

Did I drop that? shit.

2018-06-19 01:34:36 UTC  

I'm going to give this a full second pass

2018-06-19 01:36:16 UTC  

Actually, I did leave the heart of that in as the first line

2018-06-19 01:36:25 UTC  

I just didn't have it repeat.

2018-06-19 01:36:54 UTC  

It's the same line, just in a different spot

2018-06-19 01:37:00 UTC  

my bad

2018-06-19 01:37:03 UTC  

Yup.

2018-06-19 01:37:13 UTC  

I like Shapiro's take on it. Equating Mexican immigrants to the Japanese citizens in ww2 is a false narrative.

2018-06-19 01:37:21 UTC  

Oh absolutely.

2018-06-19 01:37:34 UTC  

Mexicans aren't US citizens and are breaking the law by entering illegally.

2018-06-19 01:38:10 UTC  

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2018-06-19 01:39:36 UTC  

I made a repeated point that this was equal treatment under the law, as well.

2018-06-19 01:39:38 UTC  

The Biblical stuff would be pointless but fun. Half the Bible's stories are about situations that the "right thing" conflicts with the letter of the law. It has a big "Context is key" aspect to it.

2018-06-19 01:39:44 UTC  

It can be complained about and asked for, but keeping families separated is a law actually, as a part of that Flores case

2018-06-19 01:40:09 UTC  

Has nothing to do with Trump

2018-06-19 01:40:16 UTC  

As an atheist, I wasn't interested in arguing bible with another atheist.

2018-06-19 01:40:24 UTC  

It never goes well.

2018-06-19 01:40:24 UTC  

lol

2018-06-19 01:40:59 UTC  

Exactly.

2018-06-19 01:41:10 UTC  

They cannot put the children in jail

2018-06-19 01:41:18 UTC  

The children are not accused of a crime, they are minors.

2018-06-19 01:41:39 UTC  

Therefore, the government must treat them as wards of the state

2018-06-19 01:43:30 UTC  

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2018-06-19 01:44:17 UTC  

(If a single parent is found inside a house they've broken into, their child isn't left unattended while the parent is arrested.)

2018-06-19 01:44:38 UTC  

Basis of my equal treatment under the law argument

2018-06-19 01:44:40 UTC  

Might want to mention how proper documentation allows for reuniting the family when things are cleared up

2018-06-19 01:45:10 UTC  

I've already bombed all of his arguments into retreat.

2018-06-19 01:47:32 UTC  

O no

2018-06-19 01:47:37 UTC  

Was that facebook?