Message from @GingaBomber

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2018-06-19 05:08:27 UTC  

You can have tests, whatever, a secret cabal, but even then those things can be infiltrated and corrupted.

2018-06-19 05:08:28 UTC  

Democracy can work in smaller countries, like finland.

2018-06-19 05:08:36 UTC  

And even AI is not infallible

2018-06-19 05:08:53 UTC  

Democracy, I'd argue, does require more heterogeneity.

2018-06-19 05:08:58 UTC  

pardon my spelling

2018-06-19 05:09:17 UTC  

I disagree with the accomodating to change thing but yes there should be some freedoms given to academics, scientists and those sorts of people so we can still have good ideas and advance.

2018-06-19 05:09:18 UTC  

Unless we have a test that is 100% capable of choosing our God Emperor of the Imperium, keeping him immortal, and ensuring he does not stray from his task

2018-06-19 05:09:21 UTC  

Then maybe

2018-06-19 05:09:46 UTC  

For the emp'ruh

2018-06-19 05:09:47 UTC  

Will a fascist govt allow changes that require them to cede some power

2018-06-19 05:10:03 UTC  

You need a test to ensure that the person will do that as well

2018-06-19 05:10:25 UTC  

Thats not even fascism at that point, thats a rational democray

2018-06-19 05:10:27 UTC  

Complete freedoms for scientists would result in BioShock

2018-06-19 05:10:51 UTC  

Fuck me, too much stellaris

2018-06-19 05:11:01 UTC  

A fascist-dictatorship can easily turn communist dictatorship in the right hands with one assassination.

2018-06-19 05:11:16 UTC  

I know there are some bad leaders that come around in doctorships but I think having a bad leader for a few years is better then having society be shitty forever.

2018-06-19 05:11:23 UTC  

Communism is literally the worst thing ever

2018-06-19 05:11:49 UTC  

It's the only system with no freedom and all poverty

2018-06-19 05:11:53 UTC  

Authoritarianism in general

2018-06-19 05:11:56 UTC  

Well dont get me wrong, if a fascist system would work, it wont now and not for a long time

2018-06-19 05:12:18 UTC  

We dont have the safeguards, the societal behaviour, or the proper tests and procedures to ensure it happens.

2018-06-19 05:12:43 UTC  

It can, but you are asking of things that are impossible of humans because of humans

2018-06-19 05:13:08 UTC  

There was an African dictator who made his country the richest one in the continent within two years, and gave his citizens free education

2018-06-19 05:13:14 UTC  

Humans are simply too volatile for a system that rigid. And to make it rigid, you make it hell

2018-06-19 05:13:15 UTC  

Well I'm just a fascist. Keep in mind that fascism is just a autocratic goverment which is nationalistic which means civic nationalists can run the goverment.

2018-06-19 05:13:22 UTC  

Uh

2018-06-19 05:13:36 UTC  

I....don't think that's very accurate

2018-06-19 05:13:48 UTC  

I am not disagreeing. I simply say that a fascist system is impossible under current circumstances because of humans

2018-06-19 05:14:19 UTC  

An authoritharian govt can only be sure of itself for one generation.

2018-06-19 05:14:35 UTC  

That's why we need to wait for things to get worse then the people will chose us or (((them))).

2018-06-19 05:14:57 UTC  

That's awfully presumptuous.

2018-06-19 05:14:59 UTC  

Or you realise that the people will go fuck both of you?

2018-06-19 05:15:34 UTC  

>At some point people will choose between one utopian pipedream or another utopian pipedream

2018-06-19 05:16:26 UTC  

That will be their only chose. Yo see most people don't want to live in anarchy so they will chose to have someone tell them what to do rather then just have no order.

2018-06-19 05:16:43 UTC  

Well its like voting libertarian

2018-06-19 05:16:49 UTC  

They find a leader to prop up that isnt either

2018-06-19 05:16:50 UTC  

Wait, you think I'm promoting anarchy?

2018-06-19 05:17:12 UTC  

Just for the record I don't believe in goverment I just see national socialism as the best goverment.

2018-06-19 05:17:49 UTC  

>Just for the record I don't believe in government, but if we have government, it should be the biggest, baddest, most overbearing government possible!

2018-06-19 05:17:59 UTC  

I mean

2018-06-19 05:18:02 UTC  

I don't think your promoting anarchy I just see that it will happen if we or (((they))) don't take control.