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2018-06-19 11:09:25 UTC  

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2018-06-19 11:51:24 UTC  

@Deleted User Do you think America should give Israel 3.1 Billion dollars to Israel each year in foreign aid?

2018-06-19 11:51:53 UTC  

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2018-06-19 11:53:27 UTC  

I think countries that don’t provide anything in return shouldn’t get aid.

2018-06-19 11:54:18 UTC  

Do you think Israel gives you enough to justify America giving them billions of dollars a year?

2018-06-19 11:55:46 UTC  

Israel works with the US a lot on weapon development and intel gathering. Which is definitely far more than other countries contribute. Does it warrant billions of dollars? Not sure.

2018-06-19 11:56:32 UTC  

Why not just put that money into weapons research?

2018-06-19 11:57:46 UTC  

This seems like a country America should give money to.

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2018-06-19 12:02:44 UTC  

Why should America even be allies with a country which only takes from America, brings America into wars which hurt the interests of every country accept Israel and dominates America's banking and media which it uses to benefit it's parasitic behavior?

2018-06-19 12:04:24 UTC  

Israel attacked a US ship what other nation has done that deliberately outside of wartime?

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2018-06-19 12:05:57 UTC  

well the thing about weapon research is its very helpful to have actual combat testing by soldiers who can tell you the whether the "bright idea" for military hardware you had is practical in the field or if they prefer something else. thus a country perpetually at war with its neighbers is a good place to do that testing

2018-06-19 12:06:09 UTC  

Israel also stole American nuclear weapons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2B4GlSwKhs

2018-06-19 12:06:22 UTC  

"stole"

2018-06-19 12:06:32 UTC  

Yes They stole them.

2018-06-19 12:07:20 UTC  

if the us is incompatent enough to have nukes stolen then its the us's fault

2018-06-19 12:07:35 UTC  

Have you heard of The Apollo Affair?

2018-06-19 12:08:07 UTC  

My question is why are you allies with a country that did those things to you?

2018-06-19 12:08:46 UTC  

There is literally nothing wrong with Jews, being Jewish, or the existence of Israel.

2018-06-19 12:09:20 UTC  

neoconseritism mostly

2018-06-19 12:09:25 UTC  

I think we shouldn't be allies with them. They don't care about us and work against our interests.

2018-06-19 12:10:12 UTC  

Can any of you give me a reason why you should be allied with Israel?

2018-06-19 12:10:15 UTC  

Realistically no country should have to care about other countries. The US just likes being the world police for whatever reason.

2018-06-19 12:11:24 UTC  

Attacking your ally to bring them into a war is shitty behaviour not how a ally should treat America.

2018-06-19 12:12:49 UTC  

for the last 50 years the dominant idea in politics is that the united states should be the world police keeping the rest of the world fighting eachother so that we can constantly sell them military hardware, or give them military hardware in the case of israel, though what that does is keep the military industrial complex happy as it basicly has job security, can endlessly keep making money from american tax payers while being a powerful alley to the governemnt because it only exists with the help of the government, and the government contenues to be able to argue that this relationship creates jobs for american citizines who work for military contracters in the largest industry in the united states

2018-06-19 12:12:52 UTC  

Supporting a nation which is trying to destabilize a region isn't being a good world police power.

2018-06-19 12:12:57 UTC  

Just because Israel and the US have the same enemies doesn’t mean that everything is being fought for Israel.

2018-06-19 12:14:10 UTC  

How was Saddam Hussein's Iraq a enemy of America?

2018-06-19 12:14:12 UTC  

we give shit to israel though at the same time get shit from other countrys for less money than we would otherwise. without israel we wouldent have our largest industry which our economy hinges on

2018-06-19 12:15:19 UTC  

the buck stops at israel, but america actually gets to be the merchent

2018-06-19 12:15:40 UTC  

American industury was greate from during WW2 to about the time of the 1990's onwards. Yes war industries played a major role but so did the car and other civilian manufacturing industires.

2018-06-19 12:16:11 UTC  

american industry has never been bad relitive to the rest of the world since ww2

2018-06-19 12:17:00 UTC  

even when people say it got "bad" it was still number 1

2018-06-19 12:18:40 UTC  

Your free trade agreements with shithole countires allowed companies to move to those shithole countires. It's neoliberalism that destroyed American manufacturing.

2018-06-19 12:20:53 UTC  

personally i do kind of agree with ending aid to israel, but that has to be a slow process because it requires dismantling the MIC, while building up an infastructure to refocuss our industry somewhere else, that whole process wont be easy. but completely dumping israel would kill our economy as would completely pulling back our militarys, though that is something i think we should kind of do, either that or start taking over the world

2018-06-19 12:22:01 UTC  

even forcing israel to actually pay its bills would kill our economy because production here just wouldent happen anywhere neer as fast as the economy demands it

2018-06-19 12:22:49 UTC  

The problem is Israel holds the world hostage with their nukes but we need to stop giving them money.

2018-06-19 12:23:02 UTC  

america is a mess, its a big economy but everything in that economy is going the wrong way now

2018-06-19 12:23:20 UTC  

israel holds the middle east hostage with nukes

2018-06-19 12:23:34 UTC  

they arnt stupid enough to fuck with anyone else

2018-06-19 12:23:48 UTC  

and i honestly dont care who they target in the desert