Message from @Hoenn_Otaku "Umber"

Discord ID: 465744034355478529


2018-07-09 04:55:38 UTC  

shut anarcho-primitivist

2018-07-09 04:56:01 UTC  

You're just jealous because we have pointy sticks and you don't

2018-07-09 04:56:09 UTC  

i do have pointy sticks

2018-07-09 04:56:11 UTC  

multiple

2018-07-09 04:56:46 UTC  

Yeah, but your lifestyle has led you to such a feeble state that you can hardly lift them

2018-07-09 04:56:51 UTC  

Ron Paul talks about the NAP all the time (and he's not an ancap ... he is basically an Objectivist).... ppl shouldnt make the mistake of associating the NAP with anarcho-capitalism per se, as its already in widespread practice culturally generally anyways ... jsut needs to be realized and applied to special govt/statist classes of people too

2018-07-09 04:56:53 UTC  

Be a nihilist

2018-07-09 04:57:04 UTC  

What're you going to do tape it to a roomba?

2018-07-09 04:57:18 UTC  

i can use it

2018-07-09 04:57:22 UTC  

i just dont

2018-07-09 04:57:43 UTC  

"shut anarcho-primitivist"? i dont even know what that is supposed to mean

2018-07-09 04:57:58 UTC  

He was responding to my joke

2018-07-09 04:58:15 UTC  

i was telling the an-prim to shut up as a joke

2018-07-09 04:58:30 UTC  

never heard of that before... and who is that?

2018-07-09 04:59:08 UTC  

anarcho-primitivists believe all tech is evil and should be destroyed, and it was Schedrevka but as a joke

2018-07-09 04:59:09 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/465743693656227841/anprim.jpg

2018-07-09 04:59:57 UTC  

i see... so many anarcho-[fill in blank] .... too many to keep track of apparently

2018-07-09 05:00:00 UTC  

Yeah, they basically believe that all our issues stem from us straying from nature, and that we should return to our roots

2018-07-09 05:00:06 UTC  

lemme pull up the list

2018-07-09 05:00:13 UTC  

And many take it to a really far level\

2018-07-09 05:00:30 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/465744034355478528/File49.jpg

2018-07-09 05:00:36 UTC  

lol

2018-07-09 05:00:59 UTC  

LOL at the Dem

2018-07-09 05:01:09 UTC  

Like to the point that I've seen people seriously argue that glasses shouldn't exist and that it's fine if people with poor vision died as a result of it because it would improve the gene pool

2018-07-09 05:01:19 UTC  

The joke is

2018-07-09 05:01:31 UTC  

the joke is politics

2018-07-09 05:01:38 UTC  

At the point you try to intervene, the outcome becomes your responsibility.

2018-07-09 05:01:47 UTC  

Thus, violating the NAP.

2018-07-09 05:02:36 UTC  

in some cases that is true... because you can wrecklessly intervene such as in car accidents where you may potentially inflict further damage on someone with broken bone, severe internal injuries, etc

2018-07-09 05:03:02 UTC  

not necessarily violating the NAP tho, bcuz a lot of it stems from intent

2018-07-09 05:03:08 UTC  

The trolley test is essentially a 'Kobayashi Maru'

2018-07-09 05:03:19 UTC  

There's not a scenario that is a 'win'.

2018-07-09 05:03:25 UTC  

yeah

2018-07-09 05:03:46 UTC  

And in the wise words of Rush, If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

2018-07-09 05:04:39 UTC  

because aggression means essentially initiation of force will malicious or threatening intent as far as im concerned

2018-07-09 05:06:07 UTC  

The tricky part to having a principle such as the NAP as the sole standard though is that any moral pillar can be perverted to become something it's not meant to be.

2018-07-09 05:06:35 UTC  

ya but he cannot be held responsible for doing nothing ... especially if hes like hyperventalating from the situation and stuf.... he could simple just be frozen in fear and shock ... wouldnt be able to blame him for not doing something either if it wasnt his responsibility to begin with

2018-07-09 05:07:29 UTC  

well itd be hell of a lot better and more clear and definitive than some foggy nebular, fluffly social contract

2018-07-09 05:07:36 UTC  

I mean, in a way, yes.

2018-07-09 05:08:06 UTC  

That's the joke. He cannot be held responsible for doing nothing, so he chooses to do nothing because otherwise he could be held accountable

2018-07-09 05:08:06 UTC  

social contract can mean literally anything.... NAP means non-aggression principle