Message from @Poptarts
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Good catch at 1:43.
i dont know dude.... what would you do? that is just a wild hypothetical.... couldnt you just switch it to the single person path and then rush over to unbind one person than 5? this isnt within the purviewof the NAP (unless THAT is the person who tied them up, right?) because there are already pre-determined factors beyond his control apparently that he's not responsible for
The only ethical choice is destroy the trolley because technology is evil
shut anarcho-primitivist
You're just jealous because we have pointy sticks and you don't
i do have pointy sticks
multiple
Yeah, but your lifestyle has led you to such a feeble state that you can hardly lift them
Ron Paul talks about the NAP all the time (and he's not an ancap ... he is basically an Objectivist).... ppl shouldnt make the mistake of associating the NAP with anarcho-capitalism per se, as its already in widespread practice culturally generally anyways ... jsut needs to be realized and applied to special govt/statist classes of people too
Be a nihilist
What're you going to do tape it to a roomba?
i can use it
i just dont
"shut anarcho-primitivist"? i dont even know what that is supposed to mean
He was responding to my joke
i was telling the an-prim to shut up as a joke
never heard of that before... and who is that?
anarcho-primitivists believe all tech is evil and should be destroyed, and it was Schedrevka but as a joke
Yeah, they basically believe that all our issues stem from us straying from nature, and that we should return to our roots
lemme pull up the list
And many take it to a really far level\
lol
LOL at the Dem
Like to the point that I've seen people seriously argue that glasses shouldn't exist and that it's fine if people with poor vision died as a result of it because it would improve the gene pool
The joke is
the joke is politics
At the point you try to intervene, the outcome becomes your responsibility.
Thus, violating the NAP.
in some cases that is true... because you can wrecklessly intervene such as in car accidents where you may potentially inflict further damage on someone with broken bone, severe internal injuries, etc
not necessarily violating the NAP tho, bcuz a lot of it stems from intent
The trolley test is essentially a 'Kobayashi Maru'
There's not a scenario that is a 'win'.
yeah
And in the wise words of Rush, If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.
because aggression means essentially initiation of force will malicious or threatening intent as far as im concerned
The tricky part to having a principle such as the NAP as the sole standard though is that any moral pillar can be perverted to become something it's not meant to be.
ya but he cannot be held responsible for doing nothing ... especially if hes like hyperventalating from the situation and stuf.... he could simple just be frozen in fear and shock ... wouldnt be able to blame him for not doing something either if it wasnt his responsibility to begin with