Message from @Punished Elías

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2020-03-18 18:17:36 UTC  

I wouldn't say the far right

2020-03-18 18:17:49 UTC  

Enoch Powell was a euroskeptic fairly sure

2020-03-18 18:18:17 UTC  

What I despise about the EU has more to do with its bureaucratic neoliberal attitude

2020-03-18 18:18:38 UTC  

What's good kings

2020-03-18 18:18:40 UTC  

I'd rather reform it than to outright abolish it. I do like the idea of European unity, but not at the cost of sovereignty.

2020-03-18 18:18:45 UTC  

@Airman Zeno not much

2020-03-18 18:20:34 UTC  

I mean maybe my views align more with what one would consider paleoconservative

2020-03-18 18:21:31 UTC  

I'm not particularly nationalistic but I still want to protect my fellow countrymen from the ills of their country and the globohomo and I also want to protect traditional values even if I don't feel particularly nostalgic about the distant past.

2020-03-18 18:21:57 UTC  

the globohomo gayplex is a common enemy

2020-03-18 18:22:27 UTC  

Neocons and neolibs are going to Hell

2020-03-18 18:22:44 UTC  

Labels are unproductive. You want your homeland and fellow men to be well and prosperous.

2020-03-18 18:22:51 UTC  

precisely

2020-03-18 18:22:55 UTC  

And to preserve the faith

2020-03-18 18:23:17 UTC  

My country is the definition of wasted potential and I also want my countrymen to do better

2020-03-18 18:23:46 UTC  

We are on top of a literal goldmine and yet we do nothing with it because our politicians are corrupt and incompetent and our average IQ is lower than that of India's.

2020-03-18 18:23:56 UTC  

I would say you are nationalistic but agian, labels are not important.

2020-03-18 18:24:09 UTC  

The closest we have to strong authority is that of damned drug lords and lobbyists

2020-03-18 18:24:22 UTC  

capitalism and marxism have ravaged my country

2020-03-18 18:24:32 UTC  

and most of my countrymen fall for the false dichotomy

2020-03-18 18:25:13 UTC  

Where are you from if you can tell us?

2020-03-18 18:25:23 UTC  

Colombia.

2020-03-18 18:26:29 UTC  

Ok.

2020-03-18 18:28:26 UTC  

There isn't much else to say is there

2020-03-18 18:31:52 UTC  

>the far right has historically been pro EU
No, wignats have historically been pro EU

2020-03-18 18:35:30 UTC  

Otton Third was a wignat then.

2020-03-18 18:37:06 UTC  

European Solidarity or EU are good ideas on paper, problem comes up with the execution of such ideas.

2020-03-18 18:37:17 UTC  

I think Mosely and The Italian Social Movement were

2020-03-18 18:42:47 UTC  

Or let me rephrase, the far right wouldn't approve of the current EU, the EU back even 20 years ago was not the same thing as the EU rn. The EU as more than an economic entity is a really new concept.

2020-03-18 18:45:50 UTC  

A European state has been an idea for a while

2020-03-18 18:46:06 UTC  

Mosley certainly did not just support a trade block

2020-03-18 18:46:12 UTC  

As did Churchill

2020-03-18 18:46:55 UTC  

People just don't like it being a gay liberal project

2020-03-18 18:47:13 UTC  

The EU in its current form really started more or less once the Maastricht Treaty came into force.

2020-03-18 18:47:30 UTC  

Sort of

2020-03-18 18:47:37 UTC  

The European federal state even in right wing edition is a project that is almost utopic in nature.

2020-03-18 18:48:21 UTC  

You would have to have some extremely strong "glue" to hold this thing together.

2020-03-18 18:48:29 UTC  

It's not really utopian but many people don't like the idea since it's not nationalist enough but supranational or they lack imagination

2020-03-18 18:50:07 UTC  

I'm gonna agree with Wisgoth on this one. The "glue" would kill the real cultural diversity that exists in Europe in the process.

2020-03-18 18:50:40 UTC  

These objections are really basic when you consider how nationstates formed in the first place

2020-03-18 18:51:04 UTC  

Or how long people could just rule places as foreigners without needing some moral imperative

2020-03-18 18:51:53 UTC  

Europe is definitely culturally similiar enough for some sort of federal state