So lots of squabble about Cassio growing up in yorktown heights moving there when 5 instead of the bronx, gong to ivy league schools, etc.. it all just being another smoke and mirrors candidate, thoughts?

news to me but im not surprized, the progressives are bourgeoisie have had been bourgeoisie for 20 years

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/06/29/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-is-the-intersectional-remix-of-latinx-roots-and-socialist-politics/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.c2dcf4497fa8

do you think the establishment left might start turing on the progressives to supress a fracture within the dnc?

could be

wasent there something about cassio promoting a beauty company or something?

she said something like where about she got her nail polish and then ended up they sold out

yeah

but not sure she did it on purpose

sure but it does point to whos listening to her

people who buy things?

sure

but yeah I don't think socialists realize how much capitalism enables

go ask people of Venezuela if they can go out and buy products like that

The Americans who promote socialism are probably wealthy enough such that they don't experience deprivation.

they are mostly from middle class familys

i like how theres more debate in news than here 😛

Insert photo of Bernie driving his Lexus here.

bernie is upper class now

but any politician is

what are you talkinga bout

hes the 1%

i think that the progressives beleive what they say but dont actually represent the people they say they stand for

not that i think the liberals do either

an honest liberal is someone who stands for the middle class 😛

How do you help the middle class?

depends on if its threatened, a while after the middle class was established they basicly went from defending its existance and the freedoms it should have (which were graciously extended to everyone) is trying to get rid of the middle class by rising themselves up to the upper class at any oppertunity

liberalism is the ideology of the birth of capitalism and the middle class

using democracy to create an elite that the economic system can create rather than the established nobility

then themselves often rising to that elite while keeping the middle class in existance in order to put a boundry between them and the lower class though it also helps that a lot of different industrys developt that rely on a middle class to exist

this is why i tend to think the right is the only side that has groups of people that actually support the lower class and poor. the left has a scattered few but dont have any organization because of the liberal and progressive domination. the right, specificly the new right is mostly people from the bottom and middle of society directing politicians for their own interest while the left pits different groups of people who may or may not have different populations which are disproporationally lower or poor classes against eachother via identity

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5905247/amp/Girl-Bronx-Alexandria-Ocasio-Cortez-actually-grew-wealthy-Westchester-County.html?__twitter_impression=true

making more of a wave lately

Thats poorly done hatchet job imo

well it is the daily mail

@JDM_WAAAT It's not so much that the rules are bad, it's that there *are* rules at all.

k

why should I care

rules exist so discord doesn't nuke this server

"these rules violate my NAP"

You could've at least led with the "I don't care what your opinion is" approach instead of giving us the illusion of the contrary