Thats poorly done hatchet job imo

well it is the daily mail

@JDM_WAAAT It's not so much that the rules are bad, it's that there *are* rules at all.

k

why should I care

rules exist so discord doesn't nuke this server

"these rules violate my NAP"

You could've at least led with the "I don't care what your opinion is" approach instead of giving us the illusion of the contrary

So I wanted to propose a compromise to satisfy both sides on the denying of cakes for a gay wedding. The bakery must sell cakes to anyone, but can deny creating a cake that he believes would violate his religion. IE: no rainbows or topping with 2 grooms

I mean

I'm just saying give me a reason besides "rules are bad"

why does it feel like i keep seeing half a debate here? 😛

@kilo (twitter-imkilo) isn't that literally what we have in reality already?

I'm pretty sure that's actually what Masterpiece Cake Shop was about

@Deleted User @Rils great. So we all agree that Masterpiece should have just sold a white tiered cake with flowers and that way everyone is happy.

From what I'm reading, they never got that far.

`The facts of Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission are simple. Charlie Craig and David Mullins visited the Masterpiece bakery and looked through a photo album of custom-designed cakes. When the owner, Jack Phillips, greeted them, they told him (according to his own testimony) that they “wanted a wedding cake for ‘our wedding.’” Phillips told them that he did not create wedding cakes for same-sex weddings. They left immediately without discussing any details of their proposed wedding cake.`

http://prospect.org/article/press-wrong-on-masterpiece-cakeshop-baker-lost

Yeah, but they didn't get that far

You can't sell simple white cakes for weddings, you see

Wedding cakes have to be customised for the occasion

He could've made a fairly generic wedding cake, they're usually not specifically decorated aside from the topper.

A generic wedding cake. I'm sorry, that sounds like an oxymoron to me.

Wedding cakes aren't generic, they really have to be painstakingly designed

It's takes between 3 to 6 hours

By generic I mean subscribing to the standard designs

Most wedding cakes are not indicative of the genders of the couple save for the topper.

Yeah, but it goes against his religion to make cakes for weddings he disagrees with, so that's a problem too

You know what would have been better? If they just went to a different fucking Baker

I agree

Instead it looks like they wanted to have it out

@Deleted User I'm trying to find a way for the gay couple and the Baker to leave happy. "I don't want to do a gay wedding cake, but I will do a generic wedding cake and you do with it what you will" and then they say "no thanks"

anyone wanna debate about gaddafi?

They never got that far though, so we're purely in a hypothetical scenario.

But that's the thing, he doesn't want to accomodate the wedding because it goes against his religion @kilo (twitter-imkilo)

In any manner

It still would've been up to the gay couple to not file a civil rights greivance

@Deleted User I understand, but allowing a business to discriminate on their religion and next a business will refuse to serve black people

And I think a large number of gay couples would've just gone on with their lives and found another shop.

I'm sure that's thing already

A business that refuses to serve black people is actively cutting off business, it may try to do it, but it won't last.