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2018-07-02 02:55:58 UTC  

Yeah; but what's the point.

I'm with you there, but I still wanna have the discussion with him. Not just about why he thinks it's important, but also why he believes it to be true. Just out of curiosity more than anything.

2018-07-02 02:56:28 UTC  

when making national policys your almost always judging people by average traits relitive to group you can file them into

2018-07-02 02:57:16 UTC  

Yes but that is drawn on cultural grounds not racial grounds

2018-07-02 02:59:01 UTC  

As for why is alt right so obsessedwith it is simple

2018-07-02 02:59:47 UTC  

Well, I'm dead centre on this; There's no doubt looking at the figures that blacks commit more violent crime per capita than whites, in most countries. I don't believe it's entirely biological nor entirely cultural (though I think culture probably plays a bigger role; social disorganization theory)

I think it's worth examining the root cause, but as I mentioned in OP, the discussion is kinda taboo in the first place, which I think accounts for the "these kinds of people" arguments gaining traction

2018-07-02 02:59:58 UTC  

If you say that the problems with 3rd world migrants are due to their cultures that implies they can be taught adapt

2018-07-02 03:00:33 UTC  

If you say its natural you can say they are unable to coexist in one nation

2018-07-02 03:00:42 UTC  

And expell them all out

2018-07-02 03:01:12 UTC  

That's true, and both are bad outcomes. But refusing to acknowledge the facts as a problem, is also... problematic.

2018-07-02 03:01:22 UTC  

Agreed

2018-07-02 03:01:58 UTC  

You know, the people talking about blacks being shot more by police, but ignoring the fact that blacks commit more violent crime (requiring police intervention)

2018-07-02 03:02:18 UTC  

Well its complicated

2018-07-02 03:02:57 UTC  

In this case their skin calour serves as indicator of culture in policeman subconsciousnes

2018-07-02 03:03:23 UTC  

Fucking Shaving

2018-07-02 03:04:45 UTC  

See I don't know if that's necessarily the case. I mean, we all know implicit bias tests are BS, we have no way to measure how much of someone's subconscious is influencing their behaviour or treatment if another.

If you look at an average police encounter with anyone, their attitude of normally based on the context of their reason for being there.

If they're walking down the street, they'll be calmer than if they're responding to an active shooter situation.

2018-07-02 03:04:47 UTC  

I believe these issues will not trouble our species not much longer tho

2018-07-02 03:05:36 UTC  

I think within 50 years programing of newborns genom will become comonplace

2018-07-02 03:06:19 UTC  

And wouldent surprise me if the parent will be able to just choose the looks of their child

2018-07-02 03:07:50 UTC  

More interracial breeding I say

2018-07-02 03:08:04 UTC  

Yeah, it's crazy... I hope it never comes to that.

I'm not even sure I'm on board with genetic modification to eliminate birth defects/medixal conditions.

Hell, im not really a fan of genetic modification of corn, lol.

2018-07-02 03:08:22 UTC  

Corn has been genetically modified for years lol

2018-07-02 03:08:27 UTC  

tacos are the best food.. debate me

2018-07-02 03:08:40 UTC  

You forgot enchiladas.

Debate over

2018-07-02 03:08:52 UTC  

tacoenchiladas are the best food

2018-07-02 03:08:57 UTC  

^

2018-07-02 03:09:01 UTC  

Nah

2018-07-02 03:09:05 UTC  

Lad

2018-07-02 03:09:05 UTC  

the best food is

2018-07-02 03:09:09 UTC  

Chimichangas

2018-07-02 03:09:35 UTC  

You realize that ppl were carrying primitive genetic modification for centuries right ?

2018-07-02 03:09:35 UTC  

Thanks @g@Graylan | gray00 , I'll present that in the debate

2018-07-02 03:09:43 UTC  

hahaha

2018-07-02 03:09:51 UTC  

Sam harris would be proud

2018-07-02 03:10:12 UTC  

just make up new words and win minds

2018-07-02 03:10:13 UTC  

fuck it

2018-07-02 03:10:19 UTC  

Haha

2018-07-02 03:10:41 UTC  

Every single food has been modified lol

2018-07-02 03:10:44 UTC  

Speaking of Harris.. where do you line up on objective vs subjective morality? :p or is that too heavy right now..?

2018-07-02 03:10:50 UTC  

Even fucking bananas

2018-07-02 03:11:04 UTC  

@NotQuiteHuman There is objective *and* subjective morality

2018-07-02 03:11:09 UTC  

@NotQuiteHuman oh speaking about that. fuck jordan peterson now haha