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I said *self defense*
so it can be justified but still bringing immoral injustice
@Deleted User I think I see where you're going. Like, putting a dog out it's misery if it's twitching in gmthe road after being hit, is moral. Compared to hitting it with a baseball bat for fun.
by pain and suffering of innocent family
like the butterful effect
I said Self defense, Grayman. What you are saying can be applied to the concept of revenge
or justice
The action itself isn't immoral nor moral; rather the intent of the perpertrator
Well, not exactly
I said context, not intent
Or the consequence?
Think about this
If there's a white supremacist walking down the road
he has a shotgun
He sees a black man raping a child in an alley
and shoots the black man
Now, a black man being shot by a white supremacist, is immoral
but, a rapist being killed to defend his victim, is moral
So intent then? Did he shoot him because he as black? Or to defend the rape victim?
Exactly, considerng intent pollutes the context
and that's it
Yeah, I see what you're saying
But if people disagree that randomly killing blacks with no reason is immoral, how do you square that with objective morality?
You and I might agree that unprovoked murder is immoral...
Someone else might disagree
Again, context. I think I side with objective morality more
Let's dial it back a notch
A racist man says Nigger on a stream
He says it because he's reading huckleberry Finn
holy fuck
u guys gotta watch that person son vid
Now, if you consider intent, you'd have to impose what *you* think, on that man
Your nuance is showing 🙈
"AI when it runs it doesn't have rules"
matt "ugh.. the operating system has rules"
lmfao
But if you merely consider *context*, the man did nothing wrong
Philosophers can be annoyingly collectivist at times
Yeah but shiv, you're missing a crucial point..
@NotQuiteHuman regarding your request for resources on the race and crime debate, the "cheet sheet" is to go to the wikipedia page, skim the page for what you are looking for, find out what their references are, look up the references they cite, and quote those for your report https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States