I'm making jokes because they're right there.

somebody... anybody.... tell me how they need to violate the NAP in their every day life

well i'm not arguing against a NAP

waiting

The thing is, you're not debating what we're discussing on it's merits.

in fact i'm not sure what NAP we're talking about, Non Aggression Pact? or the nice bed kind?

You're pushing the debate a different direction.

Do you teach the NAP.... its funny im sure ive come across it, ive read Loki and Mill, but i mean yeah. pacificsm in the face of non adversary sure

Non-aggression principle

but what happens when the bully comes

my avatar is just a yin yang of koi fish, and the colors are cool. the Gadsden flag is black and yellow too... same with the State of Jefferson movement

do you stand your ground or retreat?

where is the line in the sand

Gadsden Flag is yellow and green.

with text and outlines.

Also, it predates the Ancap flag, whose principles you are arguing.

NAP only works if its enforced

In an ancap society, there is no sovereignty of force, so anyone strong enough can overthrow another

And the biggest number are the collective with a strong warlord leader

no, you guys just randomly started stawman attacking me.... AS IF YOU ALL don't live by the NAP either

^ ^ ^ what Wol said.

I live by NAP, cuz of law

how do you enforce the nap.... isn't that the irony of it?

^ ^ ^ ^

BINGO

And THAT is what the state exists for

@citizen NAP isnt pacifism.... it include self-defense as legit form of violence

Nothing more, nothing less.

you enforce the NAP through a social agreement, solidified by giving the government power to maintain order

And having that govrnment be accountable to the people it maintains

the NAP includes stand-your-ground

The government protects people in case of violation
And outside that, people agree not to violate each others rights

The only tweaks our system needed along the way were, funny enough, to recognize all people as people.

like is it a nirvanic concept where death is accepted due to the nature of reincarnation so if you die then that is the predestined reality that you were supposed to die in that multiverse plane?

sorry i am not smart so you get runons... you're gonna get hop ons

I cam from behind you and put gun to your head, violating the NAP. What do you do ? You can do nothing and there is no one else that can help you because I have no violeted NAP against them.. or ?

An-cap principles are as utopian as marxism.

They depend on people doing what they're supposed to.

@Dr.Wol @RyeNorth you have misconceptions of the reality of human nature.... if somone violates the NAP... and it's illegal to violate the NAP..... they are fair game!

Yes, and who is going to violate it? someone who knows they'll win

and stomp out those who disagree

Fair game, how?

i am anti victim... i think violence should be more controlled and understood... i mean we WERE savages, so we need to get our energy out..... or encourage exercise? everyone needs a gym or a park to run around in and get that energy out.

Its illegal to annex other countries, yet the Soviets did it