Message from @citizen
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no one is doing that.. you started arguing about NAP
in this debate
we debating NAP
``` if somone violates the NAP... and it's illegal to violate the NAP..... they are fair game!``` - Poptarts, 7/7/2018
so its okay do violate the NAP then or what?
in what circumstances?
My thing said id vote for rand paul..... maybe i would?
I did ask you a question on this
If you can do it and no one stops you, you can violate the NAP
a contract or law, is only as powerful as the party that enforces it
sure, but that doesnt make it a-okay is the point... they become a target of legit retaliation
and if they're strong enough to not be retaliated against?
you're gonna wave your finger and say "You can't do that" at them?
Life depends on how you look at it... Did we evolve to the peak of animal capability to where we stepped out of the food chain and have created memes like mad. or we are fallen from the grace of god and will continue to deteriorate into the savagery that is surrounding us. Be a civil savage i say.
they wont be bcuz there will always be partnerships of other security firms who are ballsy enough to attack them and apprioriate their resources because they violated the law if the law was the NAP as a baseline
So Oligarchy?
im just talking about all your personal lives... its so ironic that you all still live by it in your every days lives if youre decent human beings who dont steal and mug other ppl, etc
a partnership, sounds like a coalition of parties, with an army
thats noy very Ancap now is it? it almost sounds like a government
if youre not a rapist, etc. guess what... you follow the NAP
We've already acknowledged that we follow the NAP
We're questioning where you were going with that.
okay, but thats consentual LOL let's wrastle!
so doesnt violate the NAP just like boxing matches
the NAP isnt pacifism ... its just common sense
right. we need to empower men and turn them into the gladiators of past
guy i'd have killed several people if the law said i could, i follow the NAP cuz its enforced
Alright, poptarts, lets break this down then.
How do you see the NAP being enforced?
itd be enforced virtually similar to the same way we do it now by going after perpetrators
By who?
Well to me, the NAP is enforced through societal agreement. we raise our children to not hurt others and to tell the truth and yada yada yada. is it perfect? lol what is perfect? we'd have to go back to that nirvana shit i said earlier if you can comprehend how perfect this all is.
the MAJORITY of security firms are privatized in the first place.... only a small minority of security is police, etc
Not what I asked.
its not enforced, specifically. but its the approach of cultural norms through law enforcement... or something. be a nice person. or not, im not your parent.
nobody said it was perfect..... also it will not prevent ppl from violating it either... all it would do it legitimize recoursive action againts those who violate it
you can hire security but it doesn't have authority to generally enforce the NAP is what you are getting at Rye ?
it is enforced Citizen, the government promises retribution if your NAP is violated
Well that is neat to know! is that in every state?
oh wait.... lol i get it
Its in every country that has a sovereign government that utilises law enforcement that protects you, if thats what you mean 😛