I cam from behind you and put gun to your head, violating the NAP. What do you do ? You can do nothing and there is no one else that can help you because I have no violeted NAP against them.. or ?

An-cap principles are as utopian as marxism.

They depend on people doing what they're supposed to.

@Dr.Wol @RyeNorth you have misconceptions of the reality of human nature.... if somone violates the NAP... and it's illegal to violate the NAP..... they are fair game!

Yes, and who is going to violate it? someone who knows they'll win

and stomp out those who disagree

Fair game, how?

i am anti victim... i think violence should be more controlled and understood... i mean we WERE savages, so we need to get our energy out..... or encourage exercise? everyone needs a gym or a park to run around in and get that energy out.

Its illegal to annex other countries, yet the Soviets did it

Who determines the hard lines of the NAP, and who violates it?

Or is it to be determined in the moment?

The funny thing is

Both Ancap and Marxism, get crushed by the opposing side

Ancaps are too separated and individual, and will be destroyed by the masses guided by a warlord-like figure

And Marxists are too collectivised, so that no one is allowed to rule or be smart, so the individuals can play the system and win/gain control

Is justice supposed to come as swiftly as the judge of the situation can draw his gun?

Will all violations of the NAP be met with the same level of justice, regardless of severity?

The nap is a great ideal for oneself though. i do not believe it could be enforced, thats not very NAP-ien. i do think we need more nuclear family homes, we need to encourage open honest communication with people who are close to you. Raise your kids, love your family, build your community.

everybody likes to take a nap too.... so there's that.

you guys keep trying to paint me as an ancap ... smh.... iono who youre arguing with

wth man, we're not trying to paint you

we're debating, and you ahve taken the ancap side

no one is doing that.. you started arguing about NAP

in this debate

we debating NAP

``` if somone violates the NAP... and it's illegal to violate the NAP..... they are fair game!``` - Poptarts, 7/7/2018

so its okay do violate the NAP then or what?

in what circumstances?

My thing said id vote for rand paul..... maybe i would?

I did ask you a question on this

If you can do it and no one stops you, you can violate the NAP

a contract or law, is only as powerful as the party that enforces it

sure, but that doesnt make it a-okay is the point... they become a target of legit retaliation

and if they're strong enough to not be retaliated against?

you're gonna wave your finger and say "You can't do that" at them?

Life depends on how you look at it... Did we evolve to the peak of animal capability to where we stepped out of the food chain and have created memes like mad. or we are fallen from the grace of god and will continue to deteriorate into the savagery that is surrounding us. Be a civil savage i say.

they wont be bcuz there will always be partnerships of other security firms who are ballsy enough to attack them and apprioriate their resources because they violated the law if the law was the NAP as a baseline

So Oligarchy?

im just talking about all your personal lives... its so ironic that you all still live by it in your every days lives if youre decent human beings who dont steal and mug other ppl, etc

a partnership, sounds like a coalition of parties, with an army

thats noy very Ancap now is it? it almost sounds like a government

if youre not a rapist, etc. guess what... you follow the NAP

We've already acknowledged that we follow the NAP

but sometimes we like to wrastle

We're questioning where you were going with that.