Message from @GingaBomber
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It was a right they were willing to sacrifice for another.
Which is strange.
Like men still ahve to sign up, women dont have to,
Just wanting the perks but none of the responsibilities
Do you know any source where I can read about that? Because everything I've heard says that they COULDN'T vote no matter what, but it was commonly accepted that if they were given the right to vote it would come with the responsibility of being forced to enter the draft
is there a discussion currently in progress
And also many considered it to be a pointless right since everyone got married early back then, and 90% of them were just going to vote what their husband did anyways, so double the votes on both sides wasn't going to help them much
But yeah there was a lot of shit back then that still exists in the 3rd wave
Not even a discussion, since the answer is commonly accepted here.
ok
then I might be able to ask my weird scenario thingy
go for it
a group of white supremacist athletes form a badass team in order to *prove* white supremacy. the sport they play or league they play in doesn't matter, so long as it's one that is extremely popular and has plenty of strong competitors.
they are undefeated.
though they stay silent about their goal, especially in the public eye, their goal is revealed to the public through someone. perhaps their Twitter was hacked or something. this was definitely their goal, there is no question about that. however, afterwards, there is talk of permanently banning the team and its members from playing.
what do you think about this situation? should they be allowed to play? why or why not?
Well, should let them stay right? People play sports for their own reasons.
If a person does something, why should the intent matter as long as the action was good.
Maybe not good, more like, the action does not harm anybody.
To me that sounds like they're banning people for thought crimes
Well, and hopefully, that will inspire some non racists to prove them wrong.
Yeah, but playing against them and hosting them is going to likely ruin your business
I don't know enough about how sports leagues are structured
I've asked a few others about that
Why would it ruin it? wouldnt everyone turn out in droves to see the supremacists proven wrong?
I don't think so especially not when it's clear they're going to keep winning given their record (which is probably unrelated to their race)
Also, this is also a question on whether intent affects the action
Every titan has to fall at somepoint, sports crowds would eat up the undefeated team getting taken down
some of the stuff I've gotten from others is that, for example, if they used money, fame, and influenced gained from their success in the sport to bring about a white supremacist revival, then we have to deal with that shit all over again
Then that is preemptively punishment
But we don't know they're going to do that
YOu are punishing someone for something that hasnt happened.
my stance was simple: I'm not a sports fan, but I'm a fan of excellence and monstrous shit talking, I would get into whatever sport they played just to see the game where they lose, or even the one where they almost lose
I love the idea that someone would have the gall to think they could do that
it reminds me of Muhammad Ali, naming himself after the legend, and then producing a similar legend in actuality
To be honest, most people who do sports do it for something they believe in.
Everyone loves a shittalker but they have to back it up on the field
I think it would be disastrous PR for anyone hosting them. Just look at how someone as milquetoast as Jordan Peterson gets treated when he attends an event. These are ACTUAL white supremacists
that's another thing I considered
You are right, I was thinking from the ethics standpoint, not the practicality.
Nah, its the same shit with the kneeling scandal
everyone who followed football before then will tell you that kappernick was garbage and about to be traded away before he pulled that stunt