Message from @Schedrevka

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2018-07-08 18:45:01 UTC  

yeah but I mean like with boxing it's like there's shit talking... cause it's boxing

2018-07-08 18:45:14 UTC  

They give interviews, and if they're big enough then people do listen

2018-07-08 18:45:16 UTC  

And I think theres a level of excitement that spawns from that

2018-07-08 18:45:32 UTC  

if you remove that then it's like "I plan to see how my opponent will deal with a flurry of punches to the solar plexus..." or some bullshit

2018-07-08 18:45:42 UTC  

You can find the ones from Ali where he talks about being anti-miscegenation

2018-07-08 18:45:58 UTC  

but the thing is, they don't get on TV talking about white supremacy, they just play normally

2018-07-08 18:46:35 UTC  

Yeah, it is a bit different when it's just their personal private beliefs that they aren'r forcing on anyone

2018-07-08 18:46:53 UTC  

But still after it coming out I think many would have trouble supporting them in any way

2018-07-08 18:47:17 UTC  

damn, was losing my original point. that it's a PR disaster but it's a disaster to also let go that level of drama

2018-07-08 18:47:26 UTC  

All that has to be done to support them is say "i support them because of what they do on the field, not what they believe"

2018-07-08 18:47:32 UTC  

Id say its like that arenanet thing

2018-07-08 18:47:38 UTC  

She wasnt fired for her beleifs

2018-07-08 18:47:45 UTC  

SHe was fired for how she treated paying customers

2018-07-08 18:47:51 UTC  

I think it's a question of who runs the league.

2018-07-08 18:47:55 UTC  

the white supremacist team, proving white supremacy? you can't make a real life villain story any better

2018-07-08 18:48:07 UTC  

He shouldnt be fired for being a supremacist. Should be fired if he starts pissing customers off deliberately.

2018-07-08 18:48:15 UTC  

and then you just make that entire situation anti-climactic by banning them

2018-07-08 18:48:30 UTC  

that's gonna piss off people who were hyped up for the drama

2018-07-08 18:48:30 UTC  

Which having a belief shouldnt count.

2018-07-08 18:48:32 UTC  

If it's some public thing anyone can join and having personal beliefs isn't against the rules then I don't think they should be disallowed

2018-07-08 18:48:54 UTC  

But if it's a private business type thing it's more of a grey area

2018-07-08 18:48:54 UTC  

Supporting someone doesnt mean you adopt their beliefs wholesale, liking a celebrity doesnt mean you parrot everything they say and voting for someone doesnt mean you agree with everything they do

2018-07-08 18:50:00 UTC  

its utter nonsense to say seggust that "i like this person becuase they good at this sport" somehow translates to "i adopt their views as my own"

2018-07-08 18:50:30 UTC  

This is a standard political tactic on both sides of the aisle and its polluting the dialogue

2018-07-08 18:51:24 UTC  

So in the case you presented yes the white supremacist team should be allowed to play and their fans shouldnt feel bad for supporting them

2018-07-08 18:51:31 UTC  

Yeah, but it's pretty normal to have bad feelings towards someone when they have such extreme beliefs that can spoil your enjoyment of what they produce

2018-07-08 18:51:40 UTC  

Like feminism and SW

2018-07-08 18:51:46 UTC  

IM sure it left a bitter taste

2018-07-08 18:52:05 UTC  

THing is, people responded by simply not consuming the product.

2018-07-08 18:52:18 UTC  

Like I listen to a lot of anarcho-communist music, but some of it despite sounding good goes too far and just ruins my ability to enjoy it

2018-07-08 18:52:35 UTC  

I guess that's a bad example

2018-07-08 18:52:41 UTC  

since it's more about the art than the artist

2018-07-08 18:52:49 UTC  

yea thats a lot more interwoven then the presented situation

2018-07-08 18:52:51 UTC  

I understand your point though

2018-07-08 18:52:55 UTC  

but i do see what you're driving at

2018-07-08 18:52:58 UTC  

just cause you like something doesn't mean you support every aspect of it

2018-07-08 18:53:16 UTC  

I remember randomly looking up some of Hitler's quotes, I loved some of that shit

2018-07-08 18:53:38 UTC  

but I'm not about to like give a rant about how admirable a person he was or whatever, I don't fucking know, all I know is his kill count

2018-07-08 18:53:52 UTC  

I wouldn't personally hold it against anyone who said "I just like watching their technique"

2018-07-08 18:53:58 UTC  

Sum of his parts

2018-07-08 18:54:06 UTC  

Sometimes its better to stick to the parts.