Message from @Schedrevka

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2018-07-08 20:44:19 UTC  

for real, but you'll still die one day LOL .... so iono how that would be rationally self-interested 😉

2018-07-08 20:45:32 UTC  

well hopefully by taht time i can use something like gene modification to be able to rebuild my genetic sequence to younger, so i can just be spawned anew 😄

2018-07-08 20:45:46 UTC  

Dr.Wol REBORN

2018-07-08 20:46:04 UTC  

HEH for real! im wif u

2018-07-08 20:47:40 UTC  

with a second penis ofc

2018-07-08 20:47:44 UTC  

jsut cuz

2018-07-08 20:48:48 UTC  

always funny to think about how the elites think immortality will come from simply "copying" their brain more or less into an AI system or another clone or something .... cuz all the clones or even possibly a cognitive AI one day will only THINK they are reincarnated in their new shells

2018-07-08 20:49:50 UTC  

well, that horror game explored that theory

2018-07-08 20:49:52 UTC  

But it's still increasing the length of influence 'you' have on the world

2018-07-08 20:49:53 UTC  

SOMA was it?

2018-07-08 20:49:54 UTC  

fact is.... they die. and the clones live

2018-07-08 20:50:25 UTC  

assuming that there cannot change their volitions or intent into their new lives

2018-07-08 20:51:09 UTC  

what if they end up becoming the very anti-thesis of everything you believed in?

2018-07-08 20:51:30 UTC  

that would be hilarious for a movie

2018-07-08 20:51:44 UTC  

a billionaire capitalist clones himself to escape death

2018-07-08 20:51:46 UTC  

so yeah... influence yes, but not the kind one would have wanted necessarily

2018-07-08 20:51:48 UTC  

and his clone becomes a communist 😄

2018-07-08 20:51:58 UTC  

One of the interesting parts of the manga 'Gantz' was when a teleporter malfunctioned and didn't delete the person's body but still recreated it elsewhere, so now they have two of the same person, and only one of them actually gets to keep their normal life

2018-07-08 20:52:07 UTC  

heh, exactly.... the tragic irony!

2018-07-08 20:52:15 UTC  

Star Trek did that story too

2018-07-08 20:52:29 UTC  

probably got it from them then

2018-07-08 20:52:41 UTC  

Commander Riker was teleported during some storm on an abandoned base

his teleportation was succesful, and backfired

2018-07-08 20:52:46 UTC  

so a duplicate was left on the station for years

2018-07-08 20:56:08 UTC  

another random debate. would it be unethical to force a clone into slavery?

2018-07-08 20:56:30 UTC  

yes

2018-07-08 20:56:49 UTC  

a clone is stil its own person

2018-07-08 20:59:47 UTC  

mhmmmmm 😉 of course.... would he not be human too?

2018-07-08 21:00:00 UTC  

he/she LOL

2018-07-08 21:00:34 UTC  

If it were genetically modified to have no emotions I think it would change quite a bit, but it might be hard to motivate someone like that to work

2018-07-08 21:01:26 UTC  

i would even argue that an GMO clone born of asexual gender type (born steril w/ no reproductive cellular presence) would still be human w/ natural rights

2018-07-08 21:02:18 UTC  

I think there's a fair argument for it not being human, but that if they think and feel like a human does then they deserve all the same rights

2018-07-08 21:02:35 UTC  

so maybe even kind of humanoids would still have human rights most likey.... natural rights that is

2018-07-08 21:02:39 UTC  

sociopaths arent human to you?

2018-07-08 21:02:54 UTC  

and really in that case I'd still want to call them human when not discussing biology

2018-07-08 21:02:56 UTC  

emotion is a small thing for being human

2018-07-08 21:03:09 UTC  

Sociopaths have emotions

2018-07-08 21:03:49 UTC  

psychopath then, whichever is the heartless kind

2018-07-08 21:03:55 UTC  

They do too

2018-07-08 21:04:15 UTC  

not all of them

2018-07-08 21:04:18 UTC  

But really what is 'human' is more about definition than anything else. There's no clear line where one animal becomes another

2018-07-08 21:04:34 UTC  

i'd say genetics